Sammo

25th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 4: Sanctuary - S1-E4

Plot hole: Mando tells Cara that news will travel of what happened on the planet and it's unsafe to stay there. Then he says that he'll go and leave the kid to live there. He is a bounty hunter, a veteran at the profession. He can't have forgotten about fobs and how they work, and that the bounty is on the kid. Wherever Mando himself goes makes zero difference. (00:31:25)

Sammo

25th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 3: The Sin - S1-E3

Plot hole: It is a well-known fact that Mando is the one who got the bounty for the target, and the bounty has already been cashed in. Fobs are, as shown, specific for just one target and bounty hunters return them. Yet everyone hanging around at the cantina has still theirs. And again, the bounty was already cashed in, and surely the imperial guy does not have another bucket of incredibly rare and precious metal to give away.

Sammo

Plot hole: The heist happens before 9 PM. Nothing in the movie justifies the fact that at dawn the two friends are still riverside in their wet clothes and Elaine is still dressed only with a curtain. (01:33:10)

Sammo

20th Jan 2021

Kyaputen Tsubasa (1983)

Kick-Off for the Future - S1-E3

Plot hole: Much of the lines at the beginning of the episode (Roberto's identity, Nankatsu being an 'easier' school compared to the private institute) repeat what was already established in the previous episode, as if it never happened.

Sammo

19th Jan 2021

Kyaputen Tsubasa (1983)

The New Soccer Star - S1-E1

Plot hole: Once Wakabayashi wins his challenge against the Nankatsu senior students, he instantly is back at his huge mansion to collect Tsubasa's message. Tsubasa was standing just a few meters away watching The Challenge as it happened, and Genzo had no reason to run away (if anything he was supposed to supervise the team during training), nor he's shown doing that. He's just gone, no explanation. (00:15:20)

Sammo

18th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Season 2 generally

Plot hole: Seeing The Child in episode 2-1 minute 10, Amy Sedaris' character shouts "Thank the Force." Up to that point nobody seemed to have the faintest idea of what sort of mysterious energy Grogu was using. It gets worse in episode 2-3 when Mando uses as greeting for the New Republic "May the Force be with you", which is used later other times. With the concept of Force being this ingrained in people's culture, it's inconceivable that *everyone* is completely clueless about Jedi, especially considering that Order 66 with the Jedi purge happens barely 30 years before the events of the Mandalorian, and several characters such as Kuiil or Greef Karga were alive and active during the time when Jedis were powerful and part of the administration.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: There's a difference between seeing the Force used and knowing what it is and the common phrase "thank the Force" or "may the Force be with you." Plus, the Child is not a Jedi.

Bishop73

Not technically a Jedi, but he has been trained by Jedi and does those magical Force things that people would associate with Jedi, and would be perceived as such, if only people had any memories about them. Mando and Greef do not have the faintest idea of such 'magic' having ever existed, and Kuil has heard 'rumors' of it. Less than 30 years. Really, it's a common problem for all the Star Wars saga to some extent and it has been already debated to death. In this series nobody even seems to know the concept of Force in season 1, then in season 2 it pops up with random mentions.

Sammo

The sayings are just customary more than knowledge of the Force. The Galaxy is big, with 3B habitable worlds, each having up to hundreds of millions if not billions of inhabitants each. The Jedi, at their peak and fall, were around 10,000. Many never heard of the Jedi, even less seen one. Find a remote village somewhere, and ask them if they remember the Atari.

18th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 1: The Mandalorian - S1-E1

Plot hole: Nick Nolte's little guy is supposedly terribly helpful towards Mando, showing him "the only way" to reach the enemy encampment, which is by riding the weird fishy beast, but when Mando surveys the target and the robot reveals itself, you can see that there are only shallow hills around the base, a large clear path of land, nobody even is on lookout...and most importantly, in the following episode, Mando makes it back on foot anyway, no blurrgs - and evidently the baddies had no vehicles, making them even less of a threat to begin with. And for being so helpful and good natured, he did not tell him to park the ship by/at his place nor warned him about the Jawas.

Sammo

17th Jan 2021

Kyaputen Tsubasa (1983)

A Perfect Duo - S1-E8

Plot hole: For no reason and without the fact being addressed at all, 2 defenders take the kick off for the second extra time (and naturally lose it instantly, while Tsubasa and Misaki would never have). (00:18:00)

Sammo

14th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 15: The Believer - S2-E7

Plot hole: The Imperial terminals have facial scan recognition...or just facial scan, really, since ANYONE regardless of being part of the army or not can just access any information of any level, as long as they have ANY face that the app can scan and identify as not being a known criminal.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: The facial scan prevents droids from stealing data from terminals.

And also criminals from doing that. It runs a check, as I said in the entry. Against "Any New Republic registry", even, which should disqualify also Mayfeld being a convicted felon, but that's another issue. Who designs a security system that does complex checks about who is a wanted criminal or part of 'the other side' but does not check if you are part of their side? Also, any low level trooper (or nobody, even the janitor) can just access any information of any level, including the location of their special forces cruiser.

Sammo

Maybe it just checks if you're human. You never see non-humans as part of the empire. A lot of non-humans are as "subspecies" by the empire.

lionhead

14th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Plot hole: Mando's ship was completely wrecked, but two mechanics fixed it to top performance level and aesthetic pleasantness in a time shorter than it took for the Child to eat a small packet of macaroons.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: His ship was badly damaged, but mostly repaired by the Mon Calamari. The remaining repair work was less complex, but still took place over the course of several days. A space-faring civilisation being able to repair a damaged ship is not a plot hole.

His ship is literally falling apart (we see pieces falling off as it moves), the engines are barely functioning and looks like hell. It's not at all a mistake that a "space-faring civilization" is "able to repair a damaged ship", it is when the editing of an episode makes it look like two dudes fixed to pristine condition a wreckage in the same time it takes for a kid to munch his cookies.

Sammo

14th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 6: The Prisoner - S1-E6

Plot hole: When the distress signal is launched, approximately 20 minutes are left till the arrival of the New Republic fleet. From the control room the team arrives to the prisoner's cell with 15 minutes to spare. They lock Mando up, and next time they communicate with their getaway robot dude, it says there are only 10 minutes to go, meaning it took them an astonishingly long time to navigate the ship without being really much closer to the exit, having met no opposition. Then the episode turns into a slasher movie of sorts, and somehow Mando manages to find them separately, hunt them down and as it turns out, not simply disposing of them, but also drag their unconscious carcasses to the empty cell he escaped from. There's nothing coherent about this timeline.

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Plot hole: The established rule of the wishing stone says that you get one wish, to the point that Max couldn't grant a second wish to the guy who wished a Porsche even if Max was really eager to get his help, and warned his son against wasting his, screaming disappointed when he did waste it. But all of a sudden, he can grant Cheetah a second wish because he's "feeling generous". Without rules, he'd be some omnipotent being who can do anything. The fun part is that there was no need at all for this mess, since Barbara's second wish by its nature (and even the way she formulates it) supersedes the first...but Max couldn't know that. (02:01:10)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Max is taking from whoever wishes, he choses what. What he takes, he gives to Barbara and himself. He takes the health, she gets the fury. That way he grants her wish without her actually wishing. Same with himself, taking what he wants. And yes, what she wishes does supersede her first wish, but e still holds those powers as well.

lionhead

That's just changing the established rule out of the blue and just for one person. Why would she get more than one wish when everyone else can't and earlier he was shown to have that limit and be frustrated by it?

Sammo

It can also be pointed out that the original stone gave Barbara her wish. When Max Lord became the Dreamstone, he became something else. She never got a wish from him. When he says he was feeling generous, he wasn't saying he'll grant her a 2nd wish, he's saying he won't take anything from her.

Bishop73

Then he did not get what he wished for, since his wish was literally "I wish to be you, the Dreamstone itself." And him not taking anything from her is again a change of the rule.

Sammo

And since he didn't turn into a crystal, he became something else. He had the power. And there was no "rule" something had to be taken, Max was taking something out of greed. The stone did have a natural consequence, which Barbara experienced by losing her humanity in order to become Cheetah. But that's noting to do with Max taking anything or the rules changing.

Bishop73

The conversation is shifting away from the original point; she gets 2 wishes and nobody else does, not even people he wants them to. It cannot be because they are considered separate entities, because then the previous stone is not considered in existence anymore and then Barbara and Diana's desires should have been nullified.

Sammo

Technically you can't call this a mistake. The stone being absorbed by Max doesn't destroy the power the stone held, nor is there a president for this. So there is no telling what would change from the original powers and or ruleset of the stone. Max never granted a 2nd wish and stating he was feeling generous was just a means to get the wish spoken out. Max also offered Diana a wish even though she already had a wish happen by the original stone. The question is, did the stone restore?

It's all the same thing. The problem with a lot of these mistake entries is making false assumptions about what should or shouldn't happen and not understanding who the characters are and what's going on. Yes, the film has flaws, but this isn't a forum to express your personal thoughts about what you think is wrong with the film (some don't even sound like original ideas since they're word exactly like what you can find online everywhere).

Bishop73

Since it's not a forum, I shouldn't reply to something not pertaining to the entry itself, but thanks for saying that you can read this 'everywhere', means I am not the only one thinking this way and perhaps you should wonder why? But that aside he can't grant wishes to someone who already expressed them not take nothing away, until he just does. My original entry says who when why based on the movie itself. The movie being flawed or not is not really my point, I hope it's clear that whenever something about a movie is posted, it does not mean to just 'riff' on the movie or 'bash' it or anything per se. Enjoying a movie and its plot with its simplifications and sometimes metaphorical licenses has nothing to do with examining a plot point and read through the fine print.

Sammo

Maybe instead of endless comments one should just wait with commenting until the suggested entry is actually liked enough and corrects your mistake. If people don't agree with the suggested correction, no need to discuss it.

lionhead

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Plot hole: The plot specifies that the only way to defeat the evil god is destroying the stone or for everyone to renounce to their gifts. That second option is an impossibility, if you consider that people wished things like "a cup of coffee" that they can't take back in any fathomable way or didn't even realise it was a wish, and it's of course statistically impossible that everyone on the face of Earth was convinced by Wonder Woman's pep talk, or was reached by her message, that spreads through the TV.

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Not everyone had to renounce their wish. The point was that as Wonder Woman was convincing people to be better and rescind their selfish wishes, Max Lord began to lose power and regain his humanity enough to be convinced to rescind his wish. Once he did so, all wishes he granted were not only rescinded, but what he took from everyone was given back. And in a fantasy film, you can certainly "give back" the coffee you wished for. It simply becomes as if you never drank it and the coffee goes back into the pot it came from.

Bishop73

Max ultimately does rescind his wish, but the idea as Steve said was for "everyone to renounce their wish", which would have been impossible to begin with, and the movie shows only, constantly, people wishing for bad things, some of which were inherently transient and can't be reversed (such as the person who wished Max to have an audience with the President.: that can't be taken back). The supposed alternative method was impossible to fulfill. However I agree that that the impossible idea suggested was not what ultimately happened, which matters more.;-).

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Plot hole: Diana never formally expresses her wish to the stone (as opposed to the coffee guy), but for the rest of the movie it is stated that wishes have to be spelled out explicitly, even if just in agreement with a very leading question. (00:24:00)

Sammo

Plot hole: The backstory of Wonder Woman in Batman v Superman and Justice League states that after the event of the first Wonder Woman she did not interfere with humans; she explicitly states that she walked away and it's a plot point that Batman had to really dig up for info. This movie merrily contradicts all that, since she is saving people left and right from rather trivial problems, and towards the end she manifests herself literally to the whole world (and at no point it is stated or implied that the apocalyptic events are erased from memory).

Sammo

Plot hole: Kelly is a friend of Jason's from LA and they have been seeing each other since he transferred to Seattle (he mentions 'the other day' she saw something at the pet store). Basically the one passion in life Jason has, is karate. Her brother is the US karate champion, and yet Jason didn't know that or even that he was from Seattle. That's absurd on several levels, since it implies that he wouldn't know her last name (then how did they stay in touch?) and they never ever talked about anything personal, because it's fairly obvious it would come up really easily.

Sammo

16th Sep 2020

Sleuth (2007)

Plot hole: No matter how impressionable Milo can be, if Andrew shot him with a blank, the way he flies off his feet and onto the wall is unexplainable; he does not just faint, he catapults himself back, at distance, not even in a muscle spasm. (00:35:00)

Sammo

Plot hole: The plot takes a turn for the nonsensical when the Turtles find the Scepter and Mitzu walks off. With no explanation (she is the best fighter of the resistance) Whit captures her. There's no explanation on how he did it with such ease, how did he happen to be at the right place at the right time since nothing of what happened was under his control, and even where this 'right place' was, because he is riding towards the village (and the Turtles themselves) with her - just how far did Mitsu wander during Grandpa's very short apology to be captured by someone who gallops to the village to show her off as bargain chip? (01:05:45)

Sammo

Plot hole: It is explicitly said, with a mathematical equation, that time travel requires subjects of equal mass to swap places. Eidan Hanzei has a good 4 inches over Paige Turco, and the 4 honor guards don't have the same build between themselves, and surely not weight the same as the big and muscular turtles, who also have their shell adding further to the mix.

Sammo

Plot hole: Michelangelo ends up in the forest completely by chance because he can't ride and his steed dragged him away from battle. Not only Mitsu is there in wait exactly on the tree branch he'll pass by, but also a bunch of villagers are standing by with a cart to fetch him. There's no possible reason why the leader of the rebellion would be lurking in wait setting up a trap in that random spot in the woods, away from battle, where no Norinaga soldier would be. (00:25:30)

Sammo

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