Sammo

15th Mar 2020

Death in Paradise (2011)

Dark Memories - S7-E7

Plot hole: At the beginning of the episode it is established that Samuel Palmer "was putting out his rubbish just after midnight", but in the rest of the case (coroner report, case discussion at the station, question to the suspects) the time of death is 10 PM. The part of the dialogue at the beginning (Dwayne talking to Jack and Florence outside the house) is cut in home video releases, but still appears in Jack's case-solving flashback reel. Other references to the wrong midnight time appear in Cordell' statement as he turns himself in (says he entered from the window " Just before midnight.") and Jack's usual schtick with the suspects ("Shortly after midnight, Eugene's neighbour, Samuel, he heard arguing").

Sammo

13th Mar 2020

Death in Paradise (2011)

The Stakes Are High - S7-E2

Plot hole: There is simply no way that the cheating presented in the episode, with the player reaching in his pocket to mark the cards, consistently for over 5 years (!), and wearing the same obvious prop, could go unnoticed, especially in official tournaments with millionaire prizes, on camera even.

Sammo

27th Feb 2020

Joker (2019)

Plot hole: Arthur's appearance on the talk show makes hardly any sense. The show is a close port of Johnny Carson's Tonight show, for a huge audience, and yet he receives no screening at all, they put him (someone NOBODY in the staff knows the first thing about) on the air literally without a clue of what he is gonna do or say, and wearing a highly controversial costume. And, when he murders Murray, it is implied that everyone was able to see him doing that right away and he is cut 'off the air' at some point, as if the show were really live, which is preposterous for this sort of program outside of specific events (similar to how in contemporary TV "Jimmy Kimmel Live!", is not live). Even earlier when Arthur opened the letter his mom addressed to Wayne, you could hear the end credits of "Live with Murray Franklin" with the announcer saying the show is "Taped live in front of a studio audience." (00:48:00)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: I don't see this is a problem due to the fact that we can't be sure what really happens as apposed to what only happens in Arthur's mind. So if the whole TV show appearance is just another fantasy, he would have skipped the who screening process.

You are free to treat the whole movie as something where things don't make sense because in the fan theory of your liking it's all meant to have subtle hints that the movie is all a fantasy, but the movie does not present that particular talk show scene as a dream sequence. It'd be silly to nitpick the logic in the scene when he is picked from the audience by Murray at the beginning because it's obviously presented as nothing more than his fantasy, but his appearance on the show is what the movie built up to up to that point and is not treated as a parenthesis where logic should be suspended, nor disproven like the scenes with his girlfriend standing in.

Sammo

Suggested correction: The points raised are logical in the context of our real world. However, in the film world, different rules/logic can apply, and apparently do. In the movie world, this show is live, etc. Saying that something is taped live doesn't mean that it isn't also broadcast live; the two don't have to be mutually exclusive. They could just be saying that so people don't think they use a laughter track.

Coming Home - S1-E13

Plot hole: Amuro flies the Core Fighter to the refugee camp. Taking a plane to get just across a hill is already kinda a headshaker, especially with White Base being short on resources, including fuel that is an issue in this very episode.Anyway, he lands it in the middle of the camp, and the people there tell him to please hide it. Later in the episode, we see that Amuro indeed hid it, in the middle of some woods, covering it perfectly in branches and other things. How in the world did he get the fighter there and on his own did all the camouflage work on the huge thing, is a prodigy of off-camera work.

Sammo

Coming Home - S1-E13

Plot hole: The logistics of the episode don't really make sense; Amuro's home village is held by (literally) a handful of Earth soldiers cut from their main force and that spend their time getting drunk and acting as occupation force, but Zeon has a full base (again, literally, almost) next door that sends reconnaissance troops and even aircraft to check for any activity at the refugee camp. There's no reason why the undisciplined and free soldiers would stay in such a dangerous position where they could be wiped out by overwhelming forces anytime, nor why Zeon would keep a pocket of the enemy forces that they can crush with ridiculous ease.

Sammo

Icelina- Love's Remains - S1-E11

Plot hole: If all it takes is a missile from a Luggun (a standard recon plane) to completely KO White Base killing the controls and engine, there's no way the battleship made it throughout the countless assaults it was previously in. Char hits it knowing it will have that kind of effect, and yet there's no rationale given (for instance, a critical Death Star-like weak point has been found?) for him to be able to just do that, nor this engine killshot being used again after.

Sammo

Plot hole: Reviewing the details of the case at the Harbour with Rachel, you learn that the missing girl last used her passport on May 23 entering the US, but later in the same conversation it says that the last time she used her credit card was to pay for a meal on May 19.

Sammo

10th Jan 2020

Knives Out (2019)

Plot hole: The killer shows up at the scheduled appointment at 8 AM. They kill the idiot blackmailer with an overdose of morphine. Remember, that morphine that supposedly killed Thrombey in 10 minutes. Marta finds the blackmailer at 10 AM...alive, and does CPR on them, keeping them alive long enough for the ambulance to come and bring them to the hospital, even if in critical condition. So we went from "kills in 10 minutes, you can't even try to save him" to "after 2 hours, you are still hanging on"? (01:56:10)

Sammo

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Suggested correction: Marta injected an absurdly large dose. A smaller overdose would not kill in 10 minutes.

I read that objection before. From 10 minutes to 2 hours there's quite a leap that the movie does not explain or address at all, if it were part of the plot they should have said why this difference, on something so time sensitive (of which they got the factual details wrong anyway). Even visually when you look at the dose injected to Harlan and the dose in the syringe for the murder, they do not look different. He even stabs her with the syringe. Which makes sense since he has no reason to leave her there with a small. Controlled overdose in her veins risking that she would be saved as it -almost - happens - it's amazing he got away with it to begin with because she is so dumb to show up for no reason in a derelict place without talking to her accomplice that passed her the toxi report, or anyone.Without a throwaway line from an investigator or anything of the sort ("but you injected her the wrong way, so she was still alive two hours after"), we are just left with an inconsistency.

Sammo

Suggested correction: You've assumed a hell of a lot! Marta said Thrombey was given a dose of 100 mg (instead 3) of Morphine and would die in 10 minutes unless given the antidote. You just asserted that "Thrombey would die in 10 minutes" as if it was fait accompli, while Thrombey didn't die of morphine overdoes at all! (He cut his own throat.) For all we know, Marta's 10-minute assessment was a worst-case-scenario assessment. Fran's age and physique, as well as Marta's CPR, helped negate the effect until the ambulance arrives. If the medics administered the antidote, it could have prolonged Fran's life. Finally, 2 hours is the time after which the viewer is informed of Fran's death, not her actual death time. Most importantly, this happens in the medical world all the time: A person who is supposed to die after 3 days lives for 16 years. There are case-by-case explanations for each one, but they baffle the medical examiners at first.

FleetCommand

Two hours is not my assumption or when the viewer is informed of her death; the killer gives the appointment to the victim at 8 AM and to Marta at 10 AM, so as I said, after 2 hours with 0 medical care on her she is still hanging on and with barely a little tap she is ready to dispense important clues. I go by what the movie says also about the 10 minutes overdose time. Of course if you tell me that baffling freak occurrences can happen all the time in medicine and that very precise statements from the movie don't matter because the character can just have gotten it wrong by over 10x and the movie does not acknowledge it at all, well, that's a very respectable opinion; mine is that fiction (a whodunnit, not a slasher flick with a killer surviving multiple gunshots and the like) is not reality and it should respond to higher standards than "I guess she was still alive somehow."

Sammo

I re-watched the movie to verify that Fran was given an appointment at 8 AM. I discovered something new: The bottle that was injected to Fran contained only 5 mg of Morphine. That's 1/20th of what was "supposedly" given to Thrombey Sr. So, yeah, 10x is OK. In fact, 20x is OK.

FleetCommand

No, no; it contains 5 mg of morphine PER ml, it's the concentration, not the total. Go back to the scene when Marta "messes up", the vials are the exact same as the one that Ransom injects (obviously, since they come from Marta's bag after all). It's new for you but I covered that already in the Factual Error about it. It's something that piles upon a previous mistake. She did not give him 100 mg of morphine because it would have emptied the vial (which is more than half full) and because a full vial of ketorlac would have killed Trombe regardless, at that concentration! The movie gets both the props and the medical facts wrong (100 mg of morphine does not even kill most patients, Harlan would have not died in 10 minutes especially since he takes safely big doses of toradol and morphine), but nothing - in the script - says that Marta or Ransom got basic medical facts wrong.

Sammo

Okay! It seems mistake after mistake is piling up. Now, it appears Fran lived 4 hours, during 2 of which she was unattended. Plus, 100 mg of Morphine from a 5 mg/ml vial amounts to 20 ml of liquid. Well, now, everything you say makes sense... or at least most of the things. On the whole, I think it was a complicated situation.

FleetCommand

7th Jan 2020

Infested (2002)

Plot hole: Throughout the movie, the flies are vulnerable to light (direct sunlight and even lightbulbs) to the point of incinerating in a split second. Except... they are not; in several sequences they fly to and from bodies and without even taking a direct path (look at all the action happening in front of the house, by the cars, in broad daylight).

Sammo

5th Jan 2020

Bright (2017)

Plot hole: The world depicted features magic, an evil overlord who 2,000 years before tried to conquer the world, and several races. Despite these HUGE differences with our world, everything turns out of the same as our world, with nations as they are now, and a casual mention of the Alamo and "Mexicans still getting shit" for it. So our current history has not been altered a single bit by wizards, dragons and super-strong races roaming the Earth. Fine. In this ungodly implausible context, orcs live with humans in cities that mirror ours; humans and elves don't trust them, but still they live in towns with them, they go to schools, run businesses, half of the NFL is formed by orcs. Even the movie Shrek exists! And yet, at the end of the movie Nick Jakoby becomes the first Orkish police officer in the USA! There is just no way a society like this, mirroring closely our own and with orcs that existed as long as humans did, can exist with no orc ever been part of law enforcement.

Sammo

Plot hole: Throughout the movie, the behaviour of the gate does not seem quite consistent; Gomez has to feed meat to it to distract it to let the camera crew out...but they came in just fine and on their own. Same for the angry mob at the end.

Sammo

31st Dec 2019

Batwoman (2019)

The Rabbit Hole - S1-E2

Plot hole: The (real) villain of the episode needs for their own agenda to retrieve the knife Kate brought to the Crows' headquarter in hopes to have it analyzed, and they assault Kate and Sophie while they are in the garage discussing the matter. Even assuming that the villains knew the two women were in that particular location having infiltrated security at the Crows (at the end of the episode Christine speaks of 'whatever surveillance was in the garage', not exactly sounding like she knows any detail), they had no way to know they would be there at all. They were in the garage just because Kate asked Sophie for 'somewhere private'. If their goal was to prevent Kate from having the knife tested, they needed to stop her before she got to the Crows at all. (00:12:20)

Sammo

31st Dec 2019

Batwoman (2019)

Down Down Down - S1-E3

Plot hole: The demented villain is not keeping tabs on the elevators! The rescue teams can move freely around the tower, the elevator doors can be pried open with ease like Sophie and her husband do, so his threat is completely empty and ineffective, somewhat surpassed in idiocy only by Batwoman's response, who during the ultimatum gets back home and keeps busy spraypanting the suit and finding a wig for her date with the crazy guy at the top of the hour rather than taking 10 minutes or so to free the people trapped in the 7 elevators first, unopposed as she is, and go challenge the idiot later when he has no more hostages. It shoud also be noted that the villain made the "hostage" situation and the "one hour" ultimatum known only to Kate! The police and the Crows have no reason at all not to intervene with full force to check out who the crazy bomber guy is, but the police does not swarm the building and nobody finds odd to see a madman on top of the building under terrorist attack.

Sammo

31st Dec 2019

Batwoman (2019)

Who Are You? - S1-E4

Plot hole: Analyzing the remains of the explosion on the bridge does not lead to the retrieval and identification of the detonator who triggered the bomb, but Sophie deduces that it must be unreleased technology from Hamilton's, because of the extreme precision with a convoy that had 7 vehicles. The vehicles in the bridge scene in episode 2 were proceeding in a line and several meters apart. There was nothing unique in the detonation as shown, any stooge pushing a button on a remote control could have hit with the same 'precision' without breaking a sweat. (00:12:30)

Sammo

31st Dec 2019

Batwoman (2019)

Who Are You? - S1-E4

Plot hole: The whole pearl necklace situation is a scene choke-full of mistakes. What we witness is Batwoman 'protecting' people from explosions of terrible superimposed CGI who look absolutely harmless, don't hurt anybody, are generally tiny and at great distance from everyone. The culmination happens when to thwart the threat of the single pearl left (the pearls all explode at different times, must have super high tech nano-detonators) Batwoman throws the batarang with millimetre precision at the small hand of a little girl, somehow knocking away the object, somehow not making it explode (how could she know hitting it violently wouldn't?) and leaps on the girl to shield her eyes from the explosion. Explosion which should be very distant since it comes from a single tiny pearl violently knocked away by a metal batarang before Kate' sprint, but somehow is still so big and devastating to horrify the crowd, larger than anything seen in the museum with dozens more and close by.

Sammo

30th Dec 2019

Batwoman (2019)

The Rabbit Hole - S1-E2

Plot hole: Batwoman sees live on TV the explosion that sends the truck into the river, while she is in the clinic of her stepsister on top of a building. She needs to go get her bike and drive to site. Fox says that she is "5 minutes out" when the truck is shown going completely underwater, with Alice inside who has been unconscious all the time. Even assuming that she makes it in less time than that, she still has to leave her bike somewhere and access the river from a somewhat secluded spot and swim to the spot, because the bridge is crawling with cops. There is no way that Batwoman would be able to save her and Alice would be totally fine, needing simply an aqualung to get back to her senses (and somehow survive an explosion that nearly kills Batwoman with her padded 10 million dollars suit).

Sammo

30th Dec 2019

Batwoman (2019)

Down Down Down - S1-E3

Plot hole: During the investigation for the security breach at Wayne Enterprises, the policemen are recalled for an emergency at the Gazette. (would make no sense that they are so short on men right in the core of the city that they'd need to call people away from an active investigation like that, but fine). The radio code used is "10-54", which is supposedly according to sources online "possible dead body", it perfectly fits the situation. When Kate arrives on site, people are just then starting to flock the area. Where have they all been before? It is impossible that someone called the police on it, who are somewhere else entirely, but several minutes passed by and every curious bystander is just arriving now with the protagonist. (00:11:50)

Sammo

30th Dec 2019

Lupin III (2015)

The Left Hand of the Magician - S1-E5

Plot hole: Luca draws the sketches of a magic trick, but they contain a fatal flaw that would kill whoever is doing it. He is hospitalized so he takes no part in the setup, so there is basically no chance that the flaw would go undetected. Other people are building the stage and device and they'd do at least a couple of tests before debuting a death defying stunt with live arrows and fire during the show.

Sammo

30th Dec 2019

Lupin III (2015)

The Sharpshooter - S1-E4

Plot hole: Eric is supposedly masterful at putting people into a coma, creating the 'living dead', but the old geezer was able to drag himself to the hospital without help and perfectly conscious (he is even conscious on the operating table!).

Sammo

30th Dec 2019

Lupin III (2015)

The Left Hand of the Magician - S1-E5

Plot hole: Luca is the one who set a deadly trap, but somehow doing that he realises that it was his rival that killed his dad, and accuses him of trying to hurt Fujiko...which he did himself! In fact, this begs the question; if the ringmaster wanted to be the one and only to have access to his father's tricks, why was Fujiko the one doing the magical act? It would have brought fame to her and kept him in the shadows. If he knew that the act was flawed (and it was not, since it works), another death on stage would have tanked the show forever, so obviously it was not what he was after either.

Sammo

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