wizard_of_gore

11th Oct 2018

Iron Fist (2017)

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Corrected entry: You would not have to fly over the Himalayas when travelling from New York to Anzhou (near Beijing). You would go the shorter way round the globe.

Correction: In practical terms, that might be true, but the whole flight was a setup.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: When the Dallas loses contact with Red October, why did they assume it "disappeared"? Wouldn't the more likely scenario be that it went silent (dead in the water) and they might be about to crash into them? Seems like an unlikely and risky assumption. When Ramius declared abandon ship, wouldn't the radio/comms operator break radio silence and contact the Russian fleet to declare an emergency, thus alerting the crew to the Captian's ruse and defection? If not, how would the fleet supposedly find them as the Captain implied to the doctor? Seems like an overlooked flaw in his plan.

Correction: You're listing two mistakes here, but I will only address the first one. No one actually thinks the sub "disappeared." Jones is stating that the sub disappeared from sonar, which was unexpected. They had never encountered a sub that had completely silent propulsion before, so they had no idea what to make of the fact that it suddenly disappeared from sonar.

wizard_of_gore

Correction: If the sub was no longer visible on passive sonar all that means is they stopped making noise. The logical and far more likely assumption to be made is that the Red October went dead in the water (think the Crazy Ivan scene when the Dallas went dead in the water so the Red October could not see them on sonar), and they should have stopped and gone quiet, not continued on what was likely a collision course with the Red October. As you said yourself, they had never encountered a silent submarine before, so why would they make the assumption Red October had evaded their sonar instead of the very logical and likely explanation that they simply stopped their engines and were no longer moving? Major factual error in the film.

Correction: How would breaking radio silence ruin the plan? The crew thinks the ship's radioactive (thus they are willing to abandon) ; later they'll tell the Soviet leaders that same story (when finally returned home).

Other mistake: Throughout the movie, Hank's lab in its shrunken form is constantly jostled and tossed around, but when it's restored to full size in a new location, nothing is out of place and everything still works perfectly.

wizard_of_gore

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Suggested correction: Given that he has prepared the lab to be shrunken and mobilized at a moment's notice, he probably thought of this ahead of time and secured everything important in place.

Phaneron

Perhaps he could secure some things, but there's never so much as a computer monitor out of place.

wizard_of_gore

It's a fair point. I agree that some things should definitely be out of place, but given the importance of what he is working on, he would take measures to ensure that the important things wouldn't become damaged and inoperative when the lab is being moved around. We see on at least one occasion that he has ants roaming the lab, so it's possible he trained them to ensure that the Quantum Gate and any device essential to its operation are protected at all times.

Phaneron

In a world in which a man becomes the size of an ant, I guess any correction could be invalidated. I this case, there are any number of reasons why everything, down to paper and pens, never moves. Maybe the ants pick them all up. Maybe gravity works differently when shrunk. This means that basically any movie that uses magic or magic type technology would never have a valid mistake.

oldbaldyone

Except that I conceded that minor things should be out of place. I specifically mentioned that everything essential to the Quantum Gate's operation was most likely protected from being strewn around or damaged while the lab was mobile.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: Owen is dosed with Carfentanil in an amount intended for dinosaurs. At 10,000 times the potency of Morphine, that amount of the drug would have killed him. It's so potent, the lethal dosage for humans is measured in micrograms.

wizard_of_gore

Correction: The amount used was calibrated for a smaller dinosaur like Blue. Also, Zia pulled the dart out of Owen before it was fully injected into his body (the liquid can still be seen in the vial) so he did not get the entire dose, which might have been enough to kill him.

raywest

Correction: The intent was to take Blue alive, so she would not have been given a lethal dose, only enough for sedation. It would not have killed Owen.

raywest

Correction: The quantity needed to anaesthetise the dinosaurs would depend on their size, and the users would have been trained to measure out the necessary quantities. It is likely they would have also adjusted it for Owen so that he was not killed.

Not sure what the amount needed for the dinosaurs has to do with Owen. Any amount that would bring down a dinosaur would certainly kill a human.

wizard_of_gore

The amount used was calibrated for a smaller dinosaur like Blue. Also, Zia pulled the dart out of Owen before it was fully injected into his body (the liquid can still be seen in the vial) so he did not get the entire dose, which might have been enough to kill him.

I suspect that Lockwood never intended for Owen, Claire, and the others to survive once they'd outlived their usefulness, so it's doubtful there was any concern about whether or not the dosage was lethal to humans.

raywest

Corrected entry: Owen would have been killed while sedation wore off when lava was creeping towards him. A person would die from the heat metres away let alone a metre like when he was by the log. (00:37:30 - 00:38:00)

Houma R L Dave

Correction: Not necessarily. It all depends what type of rock/lava it is. Even if you touch lava, you would get a nasty burn but you wouldn't die unless you were engulfed by it. The true mistake here is that with the amount of time he spent so close to the flow, he would have at least had first degree burns and redness all over.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: When the Enterprise first encounters V'ger, Spock determines that they cannot communicate because V'ger is transmitting at a frequency and speed that is too advanced for Enterprise to interpret. At the end of the movie, when they finally encounter V'ger itself, they determine that it cannot communicate with Earth because it is using 300 year old technology and no one on Earth can receive the signal. Which is it?

wizard_of_gore

Correction: Both. V'ger has been upgraded and has evolved. When they first encounter it, it's communicating with its advanced technology. At the end, it's trying to communicate with "the creator" and so is using its original language.

It still doesn't make sense. V'Ger does not know who the creator is, so why would it attempt to communicate with the creator using only it's original signal type?

wizard_of_gore

V'Ger's original programming was quite specific: collect all data possible and return that information to its creator. Neither V'Ger nor the living machines knew who the creator WAS, and didn't know where the creator would be in the galaxy, but did know what the creator's planet would look like, thanks to the plaque with V'Ger's true name on it. That plaque had the continents of Earth visible, so it wouldn't be a stretch to have the added hardware from the living machines scan for that particular configuration of continents to aid V'Ger in finding the creator's home planet. The signal the Enterprise received from V'Ger earlier in the film is because V'Ger did not know who its creator was and thought the Enterprise was a living being, just like it. The radio signal V'Ger transmitted once it entered Earth orbit is because of V'Ger's 20th Century programming compelling it to do so. Remember, the living machines did not alter V'Ger's programming. They simply made it possible for V'Ger to complete its mission. V'Ger achieving sentience was an unintended side effect.

Corrected entry: V'Ger considers humanoids controlling the Enterprise as an infection, unnecessary like a virus. On the other hand Spock finds out that V'Ger has travelled the whole universe searching for answers. Why doesn't V'Ger know that biological units are building and commanding spaceships? V'Ger must have already met Breen, Hirogen, and thousand other biological astronauts.

Goekhan

Correction: V'Ger does know this, but still considers humans (or carbon units) to be inferior, even to the technology that they created. As far as other species, we do not know what V'Ger did to them.

wizard_of_gore

If a virus told you that humans were created by viruses and in fact are controlled by them, you would find it hard to believe, too.

TonyPH

Ilia as the drone of V'Ger is asking what for the humans are needed on the enterprise. V'Ger doesn't seem to know the concept of biological units in space ships or has never wondered before even it must've seen this scenario many thousand times in every quadrant of the galaxy. OK V'Ger is a "child", but even the dumbest child could connect the lines I guess.

Goekhan

Correction: As shown in at least two other films in the MCU, Thor is able to conjure his costume magically. He can "take it off" and "put it on" at will, and it will appear or disappear within seconds.

TedStixon

Correction: Yes, because getting the mystical axe regenerates both him and his costume, just like retrieving Mjolnir in the first Thor film did.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: At one point early on, but after Vision has returned to his red and green robot form, the space on his forehead is missing the Mind Stone. If you look at the set photos of Vision before they used the computer animation, it becomes clear that the CGI wasn't properly completed.

Correction: I've seen the movie twice, and at no point is Vision missing the stone.

wizard_of_gore

I've seen this movie a few times now and there's been a shot or two where he didn't have the stone on his forehead. I think one of the moments is when he's talking to Wanda, either in their room or when they went outside just before the attack; I would have to double-check.

Yea except this entry said he was in his robot form and missing the stone. When he was outside just before the attack, he was not in his robot form.

DetectiveGadget85

24th Apr 2018

Rampage (2018)

Corrected entry: Near the beginning, they say part of the space station crashes into southern Wyoming. They then show a title card that says "Casper, Wyoming." Casper is in central Wyoming.

manthabeat

Correction: Parts of the space station crashed in several places. Later on, the wolf is discovered in Casper. A wolf that size and speed could easily travel a large distance in a short period of time.

wizard_of_gore

23rd Apr 2018

A Quiet Place (2018)

Corrected entry: If the aliens are sensitive to sound, and a simple high pitch sound can distract and hurt their hearing, the army could have figured this out long ago and defeated them with ease.

Correction: Apparently, it was a specific frequency that they were sensitive to, which was discovered by the dad while he was attempting to make a working hearing aid for his daughter.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: Packard and group are crossing the graveyard looking for a missing soldier. While getting attacked somebody has the flamethrower. The flamethrower wasn't seen anywhere else in the movie. (01:20:00 - 01:21:00)

Correction: Just because it had not yet been used doesn't mean that they didn't have the flamethrower all along.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: During the bombardment of the republic ships by the first order, the shots have a flight pattern that looks very much like a balistic curve. There is no gravity source strong enough anywhere nearby to account for this curve.

Christoph Galuschka

Correction: This is a fictional technology set in a fictional universe. We do not know the type of energy the weapon uses, therefore we can't say how it should or should not behave. Also, the ships are enormous, and therefore have their own gravitational effect due to their mass, which could account for this.

wizard_of_gore

Correction: While the first is a possibility, that in some way they are able to have some kind of guided laser-torpedo something or other, but the gravity explanation is impossible. If it's guided energy, it would take gravitational fields on the order of massive planets and above to even start to bend the light. These ships are not that massive. If you want to use the "but they have artificial gravity" argument, if it were that powerful a field to affect light and quasi-light objects as is proposed, especially at those distances, then it would absolutely impossible for anyone to move within the ship - they would be either squashed completely flat or rendered immobile due to the sheer power of the field. The best explanation is that the film makers simply wanted to be able to show the guns hitting in a way that wasn't simply straight-line lasers, and hoped that people would just think it was cool.

It's established in the Star Wars universe that the weapons are not light, but rather charged gas and plasma.

Greg Dwyer

Starships so large have something called "inertia dampers" which counter the massive gravitational forces the ship endures for anyone inside it.

lionhead

27th Jul 2017

Wonder Woman (2017)

Corrected entry: When Diana and Steve sail from Themyscira to London, the sails on the boat just hang there, indicating that there is no wind. Sailboats need wind to move and the sails need periodic adjustment depending on from which direction the wind is coming.

wizard_of_gore

Correction: In the sequence at night there's no wind, but nor are they moving much - that's sailing for you - if there's no wind you just need to wait and hope. After another scene we then see them arriving in London, with a taught rope off the bow, a steamboat in front clearly towing them, and Steve says "we got lucky, we caught a ride and made some good time".

Correction: The sailboat is attached to a steamship or similar in front. That's why Steve said they made some good time.

I just watched the film again. There is no steamship. Where would it have come from?

wizard_of_gore

As they sail into London they're being towed by a steamship.

Jon Sandys

There's no indication the boat is under any form of power other than the sails.

Ssiscool

16th Nov 2017

Gladiator (2000)

Corrected entry: Historically speaking, the real Commodus fought in the arena. Unbeknownst to him, the soldiers preparing the gladiator to fight, would stab the opponent in the back, to weaken him in the same way that Commodus does to Maximus in this film.

Correction: There is no historical evidence of this. It is true that soldiers who were already wounded and citizens who were amputees or otherwise disabled would be placed in the arena for Commodus to slay. Roman citizens who might be missing a foot or hand would be put in the arena, where they were tethered together for Commodus to club to death while pretending they were giants. (Citation: Dio Cassius).

wizard_of_gore

30th Jan 2017

Cast Away (2000)

Corrected entry: When Tom Hanks says goodbye to Helen Hunt in the Jeep Cherokee at the airport, you can see the "Jeep" emblem above the grille. When he gets the car back back five years later, the emblem is gone.

Lars Bakke

Correction: There are many reasons why an emblem could be missing from a vehicle after five years. Someone could have stolen it, or it could have been defective and fallen off. There are a million cars on the road with missing emblems.

wizard_of_gore

Year of Hell (2) - S4-E9

Corrected entry: When Chakotay's comet removal simulation erases 8,000 civilizations, Annorax tells him that 4 billion years before, material from the comet was the catalyst for the eventual development of several civilizations. However, comets, by their very nature, are short-lived, around 10,000 years. There is no way a comet that seeded life across multiple solar systems 4 billion years earlier would still exist.

Guy

Correction: Not entirely correct. The typical dynamical lifetime of a comet is about 500,000 years, which of course, can vary. After its dynamical lifetime, the comet becomes a dead comet, Once a comet has lost all of its available volatile materials, its coma and tail will disappear and the remaining inert nucleus will take on the appearance of an asteroid. Since it is never mentioned what type of comet they are discussing, the scenario is plausible.

wizard_of_gore

10th Aug 2016

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: When Sulu uses the parachute to get back onto the drill's platform he cuts the cord as he is being pulled into the venting flame. For some reason the flame cannot burn the cord but can easily incinerate an alien.

Correction: We do not know what the cord is made of. It could easily be fireproof, as opposed to organic matter, which is not.

wizard_of_gore

Corrected entry: As Red October enters the river, a large sonar dispenser pod can be seen on the rudder. Typhoon class subs don't have those. The large tear-shaped towed array dispensers are present on Sierra II and Akula-class submarines, but not Typhoons.

Doc

Correction: The Red October is a brand new design, not a typical Typhoon class. She has many new features, such as the caterpillar drive, so it's entirely possible that she has such a sonar array.

wizard_of_gore

28th Aug 2014

The Strain (2014)

Correction: In what episode and in what scene? This is far too general a statement.

wizard_of_gore

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