Chapter 6: The Prisoner - S1-E6
Stupidity: You gotta be really not much attentive if you Miss a device the size of a large cell phone in your pants, beeping like crazy. Conveniently though, it appears to be beeping only when Mando leaves.
13th Jan 2021
13th Jan 2021
11th Jan 2021
Stupidity: Max is shown fulfilling the various wishes that people express to him, and never turn down any; it would not fit what he became anyway, which is a wishing stone. If people touch him, he has to comply. The wishes he can grant have seemingly no limit, and yet, in this predicament it takes a humongous level of suspension of disbelief to assume that in a climate of global war and chaos, NOBODY wishes for things to go better in any way and the nuclear war to be stopped. There are even in some street scenes "Ban nukes" signs; surely some of those guys must have wished for the madness to stop.
Suggested correction: The Dreamstone was also created by the Duke of Deception to bring chaos into the world. It brought out people's selfish desires. When Max Lord became the Dreamstone, he was able to continue to manipulate people in wishing what they truly desired, wishing for more than than had. In the comics, Max Lord had the ability to telepathically alter people's minds after he became a metahuman, so it seems the film incorporated this power as well. It/He made people wish for selfish things. That was the purpose of Wonder Woman's monologue, to tell the people to become less selfish, so give up their wants, to be the hero to save the world by giving up their wish (and wish for a better world would have cost too much, so that wouldn't be an option).
"Cost too much" is not a rule established in the movie, since desires like the deportation of the Irish, "Wish I never met you" "want all the money in the world" someone says in background have astonishingly powerful ramifications. LIkewise why would it be an implication that he is the one who makes them wish only selfish things? The movie wants to say that there are no 'good' wishes when you take shortcuts to make them happen (or at least it tries to referencing the Monkey paw) but to do so shows only wishes that are rotten to begin with.
Suggested correction: With so many people wishing at the same time, it's logical a lot of people are wishing for the opposite. I'm sure the stone's power has some way of dealing with conflicting wishes. For example, someone could wish for the world to blow up or burn, whilst others wish that everybody will be happy and healthy. So, nothing much happens that threatens human existence (the stone would be worthless if all humans are dead) as those wishes cancel eachother out. But the nuclear war happened before Max started talking to everybody, so that is happily continuing.
Most people would have wished the nukes to disappear pretty instantly especially with the world falling into chaos and everyone panicking about it.
And others would have wished for them to hit and kill the "heathens" or "hateful." Cancellation.
11th Jan 2021
Stupidity: Diana and Steve are both characterized as heroes and highly moral individuals, but they both are perfectly fine, without giving any shadow of a second thought, with the fact that Steve is inhabiting the body of a real person, with a real job and friends, completely innocent and whose life has been taken. We don't ask for a movie to cover every possible nuance, but they make reference to his job, use his stuff, endanger the innocent body and use it 'for pleasure' too. They make a big deal of Cheetah losing her humanity, but what the heroes do is arguably worse.
Suggested correction: While this is bad writing that makes them unsympathetic, it is not objectively a mistake. They endanger the man through Steve because the entire world is at stake. They have sex using his body because they, like the writers most likely, do not consider it rape because there's no indication that the man is conscious in Steve's body or that he'll ever find out (So closer to date-rape), and ultimately, Diana wanting Steve to stay in the man's body forever, while arguably out of character, is a character flaw they both realise she needs to overcome by the end of the movie.
Not objectively a mistake? Actually I agree! Stupidity entries are in a tab separate from the proper "mistakes" tab for a reason; all those behaviors that are not full plot holes but happen against logic and character, just because they are being a tool for the plot. The movie does not make them unsympathetic by design; that would be good writing, that wouldn't be stupid, it would be human. But no, their love antics are never characterized as problematic or inherently creepy. The choices they make and that are outlined in your comment are glossed over; the movie hides the face of the guy but they both see it when they 'rape' him and when they risk his wellbeing, When she gives up on him she does it to get her powers back, she is not overcoming a character flaw, since the presence of the "other guy" is not addressed even at that moment, even if they see him. (if Steve were in a new body, the scene would have played exactly the same). Nobody could act this blasè.
Everything you've said in the stupidity entry and comment is your opinion (well, probably the opinion of the one YouTube video we've all seen where the guy bashes the film and then others repeat his opinion). Wonder Woman sees Steve, not the man whose body Steve is in. Not to mention we don't hear all their conversations about the situation because it would become clunky dialog. And before she starts losing her powers, the two really had no idea what had happened to the man. But nothing in the film regarding this situation is out of character of the "good guys" because we've never seen them in this situation (nor has anyone actually been in this situation to claim "nobody would act this blasé).
I invite you to rewatch the actual movie and not any youtube video; she sees the guy, they both do; he's never Chris Pine, who is 'canonically' never in the movie as himself. Chris Pine is what we, the audience, see. Look back at the scene of the mirror. They explain it. She says "He's great, but all I see is you." Not meaning that she LITERALLY sees Steve, but that she knows it's Steve and so she thinks of him. He even says, about himself, when he tells her to look for other men, "What about this guy" and she says "I don't want this guy." What's in the movie is out of character for any human being who is not delusional to the point of actually seeing the face of someone else. Which is what the movie needs to turn us viewers into to make the plot work.
Nothing in the film suggested to me she sees the other man after Steve comes back. I was basing my comments on watching the film (the YouTube comment was because this mistake is the same rehashed comment found there). When the camera pans around and the audience sees Steve, I took it to mean Diana sees Steve. When she says "all I see is you", I took that to mean she literally sees Steve. The mirror scene was to show the world still sees the man, but not Diana. But I can understand if others' take away was Diana sees the other man but just knows inside her heart it's Steve.
She sees that guy at the party, and only through Steve's words she then realises it's him, which the movie portrays from then on by showing Steve to us. The earlier part of the mirror scene is even more clear. He says; "Look at you. It's like not one day has passed." And she replies jokingly "I can't say the same thing about you." He does not look the same! And he in fact then goes to the mirror saying, "Right, right, right." and comments on the look of "He." So yes, I do firmly believe that it's what the movie says. If I may; the fact that some people on Youtube posted a video saying some things does not mean that anyone else supporting a specific idea - which does have a foundation in what the movie said, as I hope I clarified - did not reach the same conclusion and should be dismissed because they are lazily rehashing hersay. Glad you at least see where I come from, even if you may have not read the movie facts the same way I did.
17th Sep 2020
Stupidity: In several martial arts-themed movies or TV episodes, the fight advertised on the poster is not just the main event. It's the ONLY event. So people drive en masse and pay good money to get a seat for an event with no preliminaries, undercard...just watch with no warm-up something that potentially lasts 5 seconds.
17th Sep 2020
17th Sep 2020
Stupidity: The final fight is advertised on every wall, everywhere in the newspapers, and with TV and radio coverage. The fight with excessive violence the Mafia is doing to have a hostile takeover of a business. It does not make a lot of sense. The plan the bad guys try to implement here, is using famous respectable dojos to sell drugs. If they show the violence and non-cooperation of the owners, the legitimacy of the business and its appeal as front kinda goes away. Which really also underlines how stupid the whole plan is and how easily it would be exposed.
16th Sep 2020
Stupidity: Scott spread his lie about the protagonist telling Dean, who tells Frank (without details, just that the guy is 'a good fighter'). So barely one person (acting rather childish for a supposed master) has any animosity towards the new fella. There are over two dozens people in the class (in a 'good guys' gym, not one of those evil moustache twirling villain dens) and yet everyone is happy and cheerful watching a black belt beat the snot out of a schoolboy redbelt, for no reason. Most people there are grown-ups and there are black belts; they should be horrified or at least VERY puzzled. (00:30:00)
Stupidity: When the Turtles are leaving the junkyard they rescued Raphael from, the incredibly agile ninjas of the enemy clan can't simply jump over a van, or just slide over the hood. (00:54:00)
Suggested correction: Remember at the beginning of the film, one of the clan members is angry that so many of their members were arrested. They have been looking hard for new recruits. The new recruits won't be as good right away.
Stupidity: When Donatello frees the professor, he gets his head in his visual range, and same goes for his thick inhuman hands, but he notices only when the plot says so, a few moments later. (00:52:50)
Suggested correction: The professor is in noticeable distress, likely from having been tied up for so long and hearing the fight between the foot soldiers and the turtles occurring just outside, so he isn't paying much attention to who is rescuing him at first; he just wants his hands untied and to get the tape off his mouth.
13th Sep 2020
Stupidity: The bad guy's henchman has a plan to stop XXX from reaching the wagon with the President. He hides in the kitchen compartment, which is in a separate area that XXX has to decide to look up and get inside of for no reason (guess that looking at Ice Cube he guessed he'd be going for a snack at some point), leaves his automatic weapon on the floor and just waits there in a ceiling compartment with a knife. If he just shot him through the wall or the door, I guess it would have been too easy. (01:26:20)
12th Sep 2020
Stupidity: Agent Toby Lee Shavers guides XXX through the wrecked military complex constantly telling information that Ice Cube should already know perfectly as essential basic mission objective data, such as the location of Gibbons' office and which hard drive to grab out of 3. Would be fine if Darius told him to shut up, but he does not, apparently he needs the infodump. (00:21:20)
12th Sep 2020
Stupidity: The highly trained commandos who knew everything about the NSA base and penetrated it during a perfectly planned operation through weapons and devices that pierce steel like butter, decided to stand outside the barn (so they knew something valuable was there) and its wooden door. It even has a direct line to the command center.
12th Sep 2020
Stupidity: The Foot Clan found the Turtles' hideout in the sewers thanks to one of their members who followed Raphael when he was carrying an unconscious April O'Neil after he saved her from the evil ninjas. When Shredder later is trying to find the Turtles, it takes Danny's betrayal to point him towards April. How stupid does he have to be? It's a connection anyone would have made, it was the second time she was saved, even.
12th Sep 2020
Stupidity: Gibbons knew a whole day before, with picture evidence, that the bad guy planned to spread the deadly gas using a submarine he had in his basement, but he did nothing as simple as deploying boats, putting barriers on the river, or troops riverside which would have entirely invalidated the Machiavellian plan of the adversary. We see that he and even his subordinate XXX boss the local police around at will and he's able to mobilize the whole Czech aviation at the snap of a finger ordering them to essentially exterminate the entire population of their capital city (!) no questions asked, so surely it was not a problem of having his hands tied by bureaucracy or anything.
12th Sep 2020
Stupidity: Vin Diesel and Asia Argento drive past a few villagers who are totally unfazed by the fact that they just witnessed a potato cart explode in flames with a car sprinting through it. How violent must the Bohemian countryside be for villagers to be so blasé to drive-through pyrotechnics? (01:44:50)
10th Sep 2020
Stupidity: Xander tells Jane Marke that Xiang "is not the bad guy" and should be let free. The movie narrative of course backs it up. Slight problem; in the movie opening, Xiang retrieved the Pandora's Box shooting DEAD several perfectly innocent security agents. There's no mistake about it, we see his bullet blowing the head of one of them off. So much for the good guy that should walk away free, and Marke does not object this simple fact, but just says they need a scapegoat.
10th Sep 2020
Stupidity: It was completely pointless and counterproductive for Marke to involve Cage at all in the Detroit operation, since the rogue guy was just a sweaty executive with no backing, no resources and a single bodyguard with a handgun, trapped in a condemned building. Her team of boy scouts would have done the job perfectly fine, or the local SWAT team would have been in the right spot much quicker. Anyone working in a team and with better body armor than Vin Diesel's tank top, really.
10th Sep 2020
Stupidity: At the very beginning of Donnie Yen's fight inside the CIA conference room, security barriers start descending in the room, windows first and then doors, but somehow the exitway for him (which even communicates with the main elevator. Not a secure bunker or anything) starts shutting down a minute later so he can baseball slide past it before it closes. That's pretty nonsensical security protocol. In fact, the whole operation is successful because apparently the CIA Headquarters lack any cameras and sensors in the corridors, security at the lower floors, main doors, perimeter, especially during the top brass meetings (that happen in a room with huge windows with reinforced glass a man can break jumping at it). (00:09:20)
9th Sep 2020
Stupidity: Bori Khan is a skilled archer and a man without honor. He's not fighting fair, and cares just to win, as established and explicitly said. He shoots an arrow at Mulan, the Witch gets in the arrow's way sacrificing herself to protect her...and for no reason whatsoever he does not shoot anymore, giving the chance for the two girls to share their very special dramatic moment together, but creating a colossal plot contrivance. It is a know movie cliche for the fight to 'pause' around the main character, but here we have a sniper who desists completely (he won't shoot anymore) for absolutely no reason. (01:29:00)
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