Bishop73

2nd Dec 2003

The Simpsons (1989)

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Suggested correction: He is simply out of shot due to the camera angles.

Ssiscool

Lenny is against the counter in front of the donut boxes. The next angle we see Homer standing in front of the same part of the counter with the donuts. Lenny should be there.

Bishop73

Revealing mistake: When Will Scarlet finds the injured Much in Sherwood Forest about three quarters of the way through the movie, a white vehicle can be seen travelling from right to left in the background. (01:27:40)

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Suggested correction: No car, just light on the hilt of Scarlett's sword.

I verified the scene. It's definitely not from the light of Scarlett's sword. It occurs after Will gets off his horse and the horse is turning. To the right of the horse is a tree in the background. To the right of that is a small clearing, about level with the horse's mouth. For a fraction of a second you can see a white object go across the small clearing in the same manner as a white car driving by.

Bishop73

10th Apr 2020

The Dark Knight (2008)

Correction: I don't really think this constitutes trivia. Two scenes vaguely resembling each other isn't really all that interesting or notable. Plus, a character interrupting a meeting in such a manner is a pretty common trope used in a lot movies. I could probably name about a half-dozen other movies with similar scenes off the top of my head.

TedStixon

I agree. Without some correlation between the two films (same director, actor, etc), two similar scenes wouldn't be trivia.

Bishop73

5th Apr 2019

SEAL Team (2017)

Time to Shine - S2-E13

Factual error: The heart cannot be restarted using a defibrillator, in fact, a defibrillator stops a fibrillating heart. The only way to restart it is chest compression.

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Suggested correction: CPR cannot restart a heart. See below: "BE AWARE Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) will not restart a heart in sudden cardiac arrest. CPR is just a temporary measure used to continue a minimal supply of oxygen to the brain and other organs. When someone is in sudden cardiac arrest, defibrillation is the only way to re-establish a regular heartbeat." From https://www.aedauthority.com/cardiac-arrest/.

Just to be clear, "sudden cardiac arrest" occurs when the heart fibrillates, which is not the same as a stopped heart.

Bishop73

14th Oct 2019

Toy Story 4 (2019)

Other mistake: When Jessie pops the tire on the RV, Bonnie's dad gets upset and says "I just bought it." Throughout the rest of the film however, he says the RV is a rental.

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Suggested correction: Not exactly a mistake considering he bought a rental.

That's a self-contradicting statement. Buying something means you have ownership of it. Renting something means you pay for its use with the understanding that it will be returned at a specified time. You can't buy a rental any more than you can rent something you buy.

Phaneron

Suggested correction: At best it's a character mistake. As he was exasperated as Bonnie's mother says to her "Daddy's going to use some words" apparently meaning he was going to swear.

Joey221995

If it's a character mistake, it's still a mistake, so no correction is needed. I think it's a valid other mistake because it's the screen writers flipping back between owning and renting, but not an actual plot hole. I've been exasperated with a rental before and never in my anger or frustration said I bought the rented item.

Bishop73

5th Apr 2008

The Dam Busters (1955)

Factual error: The system devised to get the height right was, in the film, said to have been thought of by the 617 Sqn crews following a visit to the theater. In reality it was devised by the 'boffins' at Farnborough.

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Suggested correction: See many previously posted 'mistakes' of this type and the standard correction: this is not a documentary and never pretended to be. It is a war drama and many facts were changed to fit the action.

Those correction are often made in fallacy. Dramas based on historical accounts have liberty to change small or inconsequential things, like adding a person that may have never existed, or change a relationship for dramatic purposes. Despite not being a documentary, unless it's a fantasy film, changes in historical facts are mistakes (for example, a drama can't have the Eiffel Tower in London just because it's not a documentary).

Bishop73

Suggested correction: This was the version given in Brickhill's book. The real story wasn't published till many years after the film was made.

Corrected entry: During the scene with the SR-71 Blackbird, while Erik is on the wheel assembly, Professor X yells 'Hank take my hand' several times. Hank is flying the plane. Erik is the one he is trying to save from falling.

Good Job!

Correction: He says Erik. Xavier's accent and the noise surrounding the scene just make it sound like he is saying Hank.

Phaneron

Phaneron is correct. Xavier does say "Erik." You can hear the difference, especially in the end sound where you can hear the "ik" sound instead of "Å‹k" sound he makes when saying Hank's name (like he did a few minutes earlier in the scene).

Bishop73

He definitely says Hank. It's not even close to Erik, he's been saying Erik the whole movie and it has never sounded different due to his accent.

I just watched this scene on YouTube and he unequivocally says "Erik." You can even see his mouth move when he says the second syllable, whereas "Hank" is a one-syllable word and would not require moving the mouth mid-word.

Phaneron

It also becomes more obvious that he is saying "Erik" when the YouTube clip is played at slower speeds.

Phaneron

19th Mar 2020

M*A*S*H (1972)

The Abduction of Margaret Houlihan - S5-E6

Other mistake: As Frank cocks his gun in the Swamp, the slide locks open and he has to hit the slide release to get it to move forward. Next he fiddles with the hammer. Next we hear the shot go off. Burns' excuse later is that he was cleaning The Gun and it went off (although admittedly, Frank doesn't always stick to the truth that religiously in situations like that). The slide on a semi-automatic locks open only if the magazine is empty or missing. The Gun locking open is also a clear, unmistakable indication that the breech is empty. He would have to insert a filled mag, then pull the slide back again to chamber a round before The Gun even had the chance to go off. One never does that while cleaning a gun. One does what Frank did to begin with: Pull the slide back without a magazine inserted to make sure the breech is empty.

Doc

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Suggested correction: Frank has demonstrated on numerous occasions that he does not follow the rules of safe gun handling, so ascribing his failure to do so is not a mistake.

LorgSkyegon

You are missing the point. His gun is demonstrably unloaded when we last see it. He would either have to change his mind about cleaning it and load it instead, or load it first and then try to clean it (which makes even less sense), neither of which is not supported by anything in the dialogue.

Doc

Cleaning The Gun was the lie. He told BJ he was going to hunt for Margaret. He had every intention of loading his gun at that point.

Bishop73

You got me there. Frank talks about looking for Margret, fiddles with The Gun, and only after the shot goes off, he talks about cleaning it.

Doc

15th Nov 2003

The Simpsons (1989)

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Suggested correction: Not really a mistake. Street lights can be in segments.

Ssiscool

When the shot is more on Bart when he's asking what Sherri and Terri are talking about, there's no street lamps seen, even though when it cuts back to the girls, there are street lamps seen that should have been visible in the previous shot.

Bishop73

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Plot hole: By having Admiral Holdo perform her infamous hyperspace ramming stunt, Rian Johnson created a continuity problem with the rest of the Star Wars universe. Since this maneuver was successful, every space battle before and since should only include a droid piloting spacecraft ramming enemy bases through hyperspace. This tactic would have been more cost effective and less risky than full on space battles seen in previous films. This tactic would no doubt have been tried in a universe filled with space battles often with disposable troops on both sides, such as in the Clone Wars. The Death Star did not need a successful trench run to be destroyed, just an X-wing with a droid ramming it at hyperspeed.

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Suggested correction: I think it's a one in a million shot. The damaged caused crippled the large ship but didn't fully destroy it and the other ships destroyed were caused by the debris from the bigger ship and ramming ship. That's just bad tactics. But in the case of for example the death star I doubt highly that ramming it with hyperspace jumps will cause significant damage. It's not like you are firing an armor piercing round and I'm pretty sure ships are equipped with all sorts of anti-debris protection. Plus I think it's bloody difficult even at that range to aim correctly at an enemy ship with a hyperjump.

lionhead

NASA engineers have to be aware of space debris orbiting the Earth that is the size of small particles because when they are orbiting at 18,000 mph around the Earth, they can cause significant damage to spacecraft. Turn that speed up to near or past the speed of light as in hyperspace and an X-wing should be enough to significantly cripple a Death Star sized object, if not completely destroy it. Yes, ships have shields, but these are ray shields meant for cannon fire. Both RotJ and TFA show that a ship can penetrate these shields (TFA displayed it at hyperspace speeds no less). Aiming should be as easy as punching the location into a navicomputer as done for traveling. It is also easier to hit and less difficult to aim at large or close objects, like Star Destroyers, Death Stars, or planets and moons.

"The damage caused crippled the large ship but didn't fully destroy it" This is what was introduced to the fiction by the director. You can dislike that if you'd like but it is not a "mistake."

This was the outcome. Hyperspace ramming was what was introduced. The outcome was also grander than simply crippling a ship. It split the ship in two and the entire fleet or a large portion of it ended up being destroyed. Without a worthwhile explanation as to how this is possible now but not previously, it also introduces plot wholes in the previous movies.

You are talking about a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. You simply don't know. Hypespace is not as simple as going faster than the speed of light. They hardly have shields, I'm talking about armor protection, bulkheads, bulges, space armor, netting. Whatever.

lionhead

Hyperspace as defined by Wookiepedia is an alternate dimension that could only be reached by traveling at or faster than the speed of light. So at this stage in the ramming stunt, it is as simple as traveling at or past light speeds as the ship has not yet entered the hyperspace lanes in the parallel dimension. So now the force the FO ship faces is the mass times acceleration and since it is traveling past lightspeed, the force would be extraordinary regardless of the mass. It would be even harder to believe an armor or anything else that could withstand that force, even on a Death Star sized space station.

To clarify, this is the hyperspace that Rian Johnson created. Before it was less clear, but the standard that has been followed since the beginning was one could not ram opposing ships with it while entering hyperspace lanes. Han Solo talks about this in A New Hope. Rogue One even has ships just entering hyperspace killing themselves on incoming Star Destroyers. This is the more faithful representation of what hyperspace travel was. Rian Johnson has completely rewritten what occurs in hyperspace which breaks Star Wars canon.

The official explanation is that the Raddus had special experimental deflector shields and that is why it worked. With normal shields it would not have worked.

Source? Is it said in the movie somewhere? So one should expect the Resistance to use these "special experimental deflector shields" and hyperspace ramming to combat the hundreds of Star Destroyers in The Rise of Skywalker, correct? Should be pretty effective. Weird that all the promos have the Resistance fighting them the old-fashioned way.

It is in the novelization of the movie.

Using a novel to correct a mistake a movie makes still makes it a movie mistake. Movies should not need books, comics, or videos games to explain their obvious flaws.

All I was saying is that it was a one in a million shot and that doing it requires a lot more than simply pointing towards the enemy and activating hyperjump. If anyone can do it and it can destroy entire fleets, then everybody would do it. But they don't, so it's not that simple. Since that is a fact, it's not a plot hole.

lionhead

That is why it creates a plot hole because the movie never presents it in a way that only this ship at this time in this way can do it. It comes across as anyone can do it so why didn't anyone else do it in the thousands of years that this universe has existed through the countless wars that have taken place? Saying it is not that simple is not a fact, its an opinion. I watched it and it looked pretty simple. It comes across as anyone can do it, so everyone should have been doing it, thus the plot hole.

This scene doesn't create a plot hole since, in the film, nothing was established to show this wouldn't work. Nor would it create a plot hole unless it was previously shown that unmanned ships were used as a regular tactic to destroy bigger ships. Plot holes are when something occurs that contradicts what the story itself (usually as a plot device to further the plot along or conclude the plot).

Bishop73

It coming across as simple doesn't make it simple. The simple fact of the matter is that this fictional universe works that way, in the other movies it hasn't happened so it's not simple. It's as simple as that. In any case it would be a plot hole in those movies, not this one. Look, if you want everything to be logical then these movies will be nothing but automated ships ramming into each other left and right and you still want the story to be told? I don't think so. So, you want to explain why they don't ram everything and you got it. Deal with it. Otherwise the fact they use hyperdrives is a plothole then as well.

lionhead

In this fictional universe, hyperspace did not work as weapons until Rian Johnson changed hyperspace for this movie's plot convenience. In doing so, Rian broke the standard canon that each previous movie followed. This is why its a plot hole in this movie and creates a discontinuity for the entire saga. Everything does not have to be understood or compared to our real world, but each fictional universe has its own set of physical laws and rules that each form of media in that universe needs to follow. Hyperdrives are not plot holes because they existed since the beginning of Star Wars and have a certain set of standards they follow that are understood. Changing these laws without a logical or worthwhile explanation in the film is ultimately disrespectful to the source material. The very idea that you brought up in that this creates plot holes in all the previous films proves that this scene is a terrible addition to the saga.

Seems to me like you just dislike the scene. Thats fine and I can understand you feel its a continuity. But it is not a plot hole for the movie.

lionhead

It is more of a continuity error that creates plot holes in the previous movies, so it could be labeled better. However, if we view Star Wars as one story like George Lucas did, then it would be a plot hole for Star Wars as a whole. If it was successful in explaining how they could do it now, but not a few years ago, then it would have been fine, more or less. It failed to do so making it a mistake, no matter how visually pleasing it was.

Hyperspace always worked as a weapon. Han explained years ago that is why they had to plot a course through hyperspace. So they would not hit anything. She meant to use it as a weapon, and succeeded. This is nothing new.

If it were a one in a million shot, then Hux would not have panicked and ordered the cruiser shot down immediately. Furthermore, the Resistance could have used their two escort ships, which were going to run out of fuel and be destroyed anyway, to try the same thing.

Doesn't the one in a million argument make Holdo a traitor that attempted to flee at the rebellion's darkest hour then? Your argument is nonsense.

It was a suicide run. It was a one in a million shot to take out the main vessel, but whatever she was going to do, she was going to die.

lionhead

Suggested correction: Just because it worked on this occasion, doesn't mean it would always work. It also hadn't been attempted before. It's not a plot hole that they didn't destroy the Death Star like this, since nobody in the rebellion considered it.

But why did no-one in the Rebellion consider it? It was their most desperate hour. They were in similar desperation as the Resistance in The Last Jedi, if not more so. Their were similar desperate times in the Clone Wars when both sides had troops of disposable clones and droids. They did not consider trying it then? They were wars occurring before that and no-one thought about using hyperspace as a weapon? It is illogical to think that there was no-one in the history of that universe that would never even consider using hyperspace as a weapon. The reason it was not considered was before Rian Johnson rewrote it, hyperspace did not operate like that. Plain and simple. Rian Johnson rewrote how hyperspace works, creating a plot holes and discontinuities for the entire saga.

No one rewrote Hyperspace. It has always been like that.

28th Nov 2003

Heartbreak Ridge (1986)

Corrected entry: Gunny Highway is drunk in the other room while Mario Van Peeble is told how Highway won the "CMH" in the Korean War. He said their platoon sergeant, Stony Jackson, recommended Highway for the award. First, the award is called "The Medal of Honor." There's no "Congressional" in the title. Second, only officers can recommend soldiers for the Medal of Honor. Stony Jackson's rank was that of an NCO.

Correction: The Medal of Honor is also known as the Congressional Medal of Honor; in fact, the official organisation for recipients is called The Congressional Medal of Honor Society. See: http://www.cmohs.org/medal.htm.

J I Cohen

The "Medal of Honor" is erroneously called "The Congressional Medal of Honor", but no military personnel would call it "CMH." Even on the Congressional Medal of Honor Society's website the NEVER call it the Congressional Medal of Honor, in every instance it's simply called "The Medal of Honor."

Bishop73

27th Aug 2003

Dial M for Murder (1954)

Corrected entry: Early in the film, Grace Kelly is talking to Bob Cummings about their extra-marital relationship and blurts out "Oh, Bob." even though Bob Cummings' character's name is "Mark Halliday."

Correction: I think it's Grace Kelly's accent that just sounds like she said "Bob" but she actually did say "Mark".

Mozzie-6

Correction: Tonight, I heard "Bob" for the first time. Then I checked the CC. Nothing. I played it back a couple of times: "Bob." And then I played it with my eyes closed-just listening, and it sounded like it could be "Mark." But since I wasn't thinking about it when I heard it the first time tonight, I'm leaning towards "Bob."

She does say "Mark." You can hear the "mm" at the beginning. She doesn't have a hard "k" sound at the end though, she has a very soft "k" sound like she did at the end of the word "drink."

Bishop73

5th Feb 2018

Blue Bloods (2010)

Show generally

Question: What is the green and white striped American looking flag in the commissioner's office?

Answer: It's the New York Police Department flag, created in 1919. The stripes represent the 5 boroughs and the stars the different towns that made up New York (including New York City itself).

Bishop73

What about the other flag that is not the U.S. flag?

Please be more specific. Are you talking about the New York City flag?

Bishop73

It is the Iowa State flag. At least in the episode from 1/22/21.

It wouldn't be the Iowa State flag. Plus the Iowa State flag is blue, white, and red. The flag I think they're talking about is blue, white, and orange.

Bishop73

4th Feb 2008

Balls of Fury (2007)

Corrected entry: When Feng is killed, he is electrocuted by the vest, which is set to full power, before falling into the water, causing it to short out and completely fry him. (You can tell because the gauge on his chest is at the highest level.) However, earlier in the film, he explains that it requires three misses to get the full lethal jolt from the vest, yet this is only his first miss.

Correction: Given that Feng changed the rules to allow the ball to bounce anywhere - it's very possible that the rules for the suit were changed as well even if he didn't mention it.

Why would he change his suit to kill him on 1 miss and let Randy survive 3 misses, that's not what happened at all.

Bishop73

Correction: I didn't see his power gauge at full level. You see it at green (the way it starts) and only 1 red bar is added, which signifies 1 miss.

Bishop73

23rd Mar 2010

Fools Rush In (1997)

Question: Could you please tell me what the father is calling guacamole in the scene where Alex and Isabelle's parents meet? Alex's father says something about guacamole, and Isabelle's father says, "Now you insult (?) guacamole". I can't find what he says anywhere. Thank you.

Answer: "Now you're offending Amalia's guacamole! What's wrong with Amalia's guacamole?!"

I believe it says Mayan's guacamole. Not Amalia's.

No, Tomas says Amalia. Amalia is his wife.

Bishop73

Answer: Amalia is her mother... so yes he says Amalia.

3rd Jan 2014

Haven (2010)

Stay - S3-E2

Other mistake: Duke is checking old copies of the Haven Herald around the time of Lucy (27 years ago). A headline on the one he's reading is about Lucy's disappearance. A moment later, he's reading a story about a meteor shower that occurs every 27 years; but the text we can see states that it just happened, and refers to dates in 2010 (having just happened, not '27 years from now'). This paper is supposed to be a 1983 edition. Also there is fake Latin 'filler text' printed in some columns.

DavidRTurner

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Suggested correction: Lucy's disappearance is at the top of the newspaper and the hunter storm is at the bottom of the same page. Also, the paper predicts the next storm to occur. Just like how we know when to expect the next lunar eclipse or the next meteor shower, so I don't see how this is a mistake.

It's not a prediction of events to come, it's an article telling about the recent event, which states it was seen on the morning of the October 21, 2010. It even compares the 2010 shower to a previous shower that occurred in 2009. The mistake is valid.

Bishop73

The Big Sleep - S1-E2

Revealing mistake: A minute or so after the health and fitness instructer dies, we see her lying flat out on her back. If you look carefully, you can see her chest moving up and down and breathing despite being dead. (00:13:05)

James Ransford

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Suggested correction: If you actually watch the whole episode you will find she didn't die at all.

Talking rubbish I think, she did die. Maybe you're confusing her with the old lady who fainted?

At what point in the show did they reveal the instructor didn't die? It was the old lady who had just fainted.

Bishop73

Agreed. It's actually a plot point of the episode at the end.

Ssiscool

I'm a big fan of this comedy and have probably watched each episode 20 times! I struggle to recall any mention of the fitness instructor not being dead.

James Ransford

Corrected entry: So the Indoraptor is engineered in such a way that you take a laser pointer, aim it at the object you want to have destroyed and push a button. At the auction, people are willing to pay tens of millions for such a "killing machine." but in terms of practicability, if you need to point at your target and push a button, resorting to a rifle and a 50-cent-bullet seems more logical.

Correction: Additionally, there's more cost than just a bullet to kill a target. First, you have to find someone willing to kill for you, train them, and even then it's not a guarantee they could kill their target. Plus, you can use airplanes, helicopters, or drones to pinpoint targets and the Indoraptor can attack several targets, including fleeing targets that a sniper might not be able to target once the targets start to flee or hide.

Bishop73

Well put. The advantages of the indoraptor seriously outweigh that of an individual.

Ssiscool

That would make sense if the indoraptor wasn't portrayed as being hilariously inept at killing small, unarmed children.

BaconIsMyBFF

That's a completely different topic regarding plot convenience. We saw the I-Rex kill 8 people and even more dinosaurs.

Bishop73

Correction: It might be more practical, but people are bidding for the Indoraptor on the basis that people are going to be more afraid and terrified by this unique killing machine. If you've got a man with a rifle, several men could fire at him and kill him. If that man has got the Indoraptor with him, they will more likely run from the target. Making the attacker safer for lack of a better word.

Ssiscool

The movie demonstrates quite ironically that the indoraptor is practically useless in a combat situation. It can't seem to kill an unarmed 8 year old girl. The idea that a trained soldier would be so terrified of the dinosaur they wouldn't shoot at it seems ludicrous. People hunt deadly creatures that could easily kill a man all over the world for fun.

BaconIsMyBFF

Correction: Remember from Jurassic World, one of the points made about using raptors was drones can't clear caves, hard to safely do with a gun. Pitch dark, unknown layout, unknown enemy. But marking a bad guy who ran in there and sending in vicious monster that can see thermal and has a superb sense of smell (part T-rex), plus marking a specific target in a crowded area could lessen collateral damage. Theoretically if the indoraptor doesn't try to kill everyone in sight after killing the target. But we have to remember the auction wasn't exactly US Army R&D, it was warlords, weapons dealers, and terrorists. People who may just use it to intimidate others or use it as an execution device for propaganda (Like ISIS beheading people and filming it).

15th Jun 2015

Jurassic World (2015)

Corrected entry: A handler falls a good distance into the raptor paddock and lands on his back, but gets up as if nothing has happened.

Correction: It is entirely possible to survive a fall like that onto your back with no serious damage, especially if he were to go limp. He did not appear to have time to tense up during his fall, which would have reduced damage. Also, the adrenaline would have helped him work through the pain and/or damage.

No it's not possible to survive a fall like that without being receiving serious damage especially given the very large number of Gs of force your body would receive.

Look up the names Chris Saggers, fell from the 22nd story of a building and walked away with a minor fracture, or Julianne Diller, who fell out of an aircraft at 10,000 ft without a parachute and not only survived, was in good enough condition to walk for 10 days in a Peruvian rainforest to get back to civilization. Point being, luck plays a part and the g forces from falling 20 feet aren't as bad as you might think.

The fall was over 30 feet, but bringing up stories of people who sustained substantial injuries doesn't bode well for your argument by that a fall from 20 feet (which isn't even the height he fell from) wouldn't result in injury. Plus, depending on the stopping distance, a fall from 20 feet would easily result in a g-force of over 150 (most concussions deliver 95 g's).

Bishop73

3rd Jul 2018

Jurassic World (2015)

Corrected entry: When the kid tries to rescue the pig in the raptors' area, he falls from over 30 feet up and gets no injury of any kind - he's later absolutely fine and releasing the raptors from the paddock. (00:23:50)

oswal13

Correction: While not likely, it is possible to fall from a height such as that and sustain no injury.

Ssiscool

How do you know that for sure? I have never heard of people surging 30 foot falls without receiving any injury.

There's instances of people falling off midrises with only mild injuries, people survive skydiving accidents, but a young person falling 20 feet (it's no where near a 3 story drop). Just looked up a couple names Chris Staggers and Julianne Diller, look them up.

I didn't see any fall related story for Chris Stagger, but Juliane Diller suffered a broken collarbone, gashes, and her eye was swollen shut, which is the whole point of the mistake. The mistake never claims a fall from that height would have killed him, only that he would have at least SOME kind of injury. The fact that about 50% of people die from falls at a height of 48 feet, and that falls are the 2nd leading cause of accidental deaths, the mistake is valid that a fall of more than 30 feet would result in some injury, if not a major life threatening injury.

Bishop73

It does seem more like 15-20 feet instead of 30. He falls flat onto his back, the safest way to fall as it spreads out of the impact. In addition, we don't actually know that he suffered no injury. Since he wasn't rendered unconscious, he was well aware that he just fell into the raptor pen. The adrenaline surge he would have been going through would have meant pain would have been pushed aside.

LorgSkyegon

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