Batman Forever
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Suggested correction: This is bizarre because it's both a duplicate of another entry mentioning the Robin Williams/Riddler casting while also contradicting the other entry. Regardless, the same basic information is posted twice.

TedStixon

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Suggested correction: I really think this trivia jumped the gun a bit, especially considering it was posted before "The Flash" even came out. "The Flash" was based all around multiverses, and there are also other diverging timelines based on the 1989-1997 Batman movie franchise, like the "Batman '89" comic books, which contradict not only this movie but also "The Flash." (Not to mention the George Clooney cameo in "The Flash," which is just an extra layer of confusion.) You can't necessarily just say in a vacuum that these movies are "no longer considered canon," especially because they were quite literally made to be canon. It's just going to come down to whatever specific film/TV/project you're watching and whatever it chooses to acknowledge. Unfortunately, multiverse stories have opened a weird Pandora's box where now continuity is almost meaningless.

TedStixon

I don't recall the source of where I got this info, but it makes me wonder if they were misled about the Schumacher films being removed from canon, if for no other reason than to keep George Clooney's cameo a surprise. If nothing else, I suppose this trivia entry can be amended to say that the Schumacher films can be considered to no longer be in the exact same continuity as the Burton films since Keaton and Clooney both appear in The Flash.

Phaneron ★

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Mistakes

Revealing mistake: When Two Face and Riddler enter Wayne Manor, and knock Alfred down. Alfred, unconscious, pushes the dinner tray aside, so the thugs can carry him into the closet. (01:27:55)

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Quotes

The Riddler: Did anyone ever tell you you have a serious impulse control problem?!

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Trivia

Trivia: In the brief time that Tim Burton was still considering doing a third Batman film, Riddler was the only villain that he planned on using. The idea of using Two-Face did not come up until Joel Schumacher joined the project.

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Question: If Bruce had backed Edward's invention, would Edward have still done what he did in the movie (using the device to grow smarter, try to outdo Bruce etc)? Or did Bruce spurning him cause him to do that?

Answer: And more precisely, narcissists like Edward Nygma/The Riddler can barely tolerate when someone else refuses to have their ideas, viewpoints, or feelings prioritised or contrasted against others, even if it is for a legitimate cause or logical reasoning. The fact that Nygma already had a sense of envy towards Bruce's fame that he idealised would all but guarantee that he would seek some kind of revenge or humiliation on Bruce, no matter what the circumstances would be if Bruce had in fact done so later.

Movielover1996

Answer: It's hard to say for certain. If Bruce had approved of the project, there would have been a lot more volunteers and oversight of its production, which would have alerted Bruce of the device's side effects, at which point he or one of his underlings would order its production to cease. Edward would still feel spurned and motivated to continue his work, but without the resources of Wayne Industries at his disposal, he may have a more difficult time seeing his plan through.

Phaneron ★

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