Revealing mistake: When Two Face and Riddler enter Wayne Manor, and knock Alfred down. Alfred, unconscious, pushes the dinner tray aside, so the thugs can carry him into the closet. (01:27:55)
Batman Forever (1995)
Plot summary
Directed by: Joel Schumacher
Starring: Nicole Kidman, Tommy Lee Jones, Drew Barrymore, Val Kilmer, Jim Carrey, Chris O'Donnell, Michael Gough
Harvey Dent has brain damage and is half good half evil depending on the flip of his coin. Bruce Wayne turns down Edward Nigma's machine that manipulates brainwaves. Nigma then kills his supervisor, making it seem suicide, layed riddles, and became the Riddler. He teams up with Two-Face and creates a machine that fed all peoples thoughts into his brain. He discovered that Bruce Wayne is Batman and leaves a final riddle at his mansion. Two-Face shoots Batman and Riddler destroys the batcave. Bruce and Alfred put all the riddles together. Each riddle has a number and if you transfer the numbers into letters it read Mr. E. The could be Mystery of Enigma. Mr. E. Nigma. Robin came and together they went to the Statue of Liberty to confront them.
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Question: If Bruce had backed Edward's invention, would Edward have still done what he did in the movie (using the device to grow smarter, try to outdo Bruce etc)? Or did Bruce spurning him cause him to do that?
Answer: And more precisely, narcissists like Edward Nygma/The Riddler can barely tolerate when someone else refuses to have their ideas, viewpoints, or feelings prioritised or contrasted against others, even if it is for a legitimate cause or logical reasoning. The fact that Nygma already had a sense of envy towards Bruce's fame that he idealised would all but guarantee that he would seek some kind of revenge or humiliation on Bruce, no matter what the circumstances would be if Bruce had in fact done so later.
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Answer: It's hard to say for certain. If Bruce had approved of the project, there would have been a lot more volunteers and oversight of its production, which would have alerted Bruce of the device's side effects, at which point he or one of his underlings would order its production to cease. Edward would still feel spurned and motivated to continue his work, but without the resources of Wayne Industries at his disposal, he may have a more difficult time seeing his plan through.
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