Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Corrected entry: It is established at the start of the movie that the Klingon Bird of Prey is the same one that they flew to Vulcan in Star Trek III: Search for Spock. The bridge of the ship however is totally and utterly different to the one shown in the previous movie. There can be no claim to suggest they remodelled it in their time on Vulcan, because everyone still uses the controls with a degree of caution, which they wouldn't do if they modified it to suit their needs.

GalahadFairlight

Correction: There most certainly can be made a claim that they remodeled it on Vulcan. What difference does it make if they, "use the controls with a great deal of caution?" People use brand new things and things they are already familiar with a great deal of caution. And this measurement is highly subjective at best. The crew is likely a bit apprehensive because the "guts" of the ship, for lack of a better term, are still Klingon. Scotty even speaks negatively of the dilithium crystals in the ship at point.

Corrected entry: When the crew starts to evacuate the Bird of Prey from the ship's hatch, the sound stage wall is easily visible.

Correction: That's the wall of the escape hatchway, not the sound stage wall.

johnrosa

Corrected entry: Starfleet has serious regulations on bringing future technology to inappropriate time periods (which is why the Bird of Prey remained cloaked during it's time in 1986). Chekov being fully aware and considerate of these regulations, considering he has been in Starfleet for about 20 years should have never tossed the Klingon phaser (23rd Century technology) at the navy officer (20th Century person) with full knowledge that he'll never be able to retrieve it. He is too smart for it to have been panic.

Correction: Maybe a bad error in judgment, but a character mistake, not a movie mistake.

wizard_of_gore

Correction: First off, the men interrogating him do not appear to be Navy officers but rather federal agents (FBI, CIA, etc.) The guy asking the questions has some idea of what the phaser is supposed to be, "Make nice, give us the ray gun" so he either deduced that or as is common in interrogations, they're asking the same questions over and over. The interrogators obviously don't believe a word of what Chekov is saying, hence why the one agent tells him, "Go ahead, stun me."

Other mistake: After they take off from California, Kirk gives a heading to Alaska. He then tells Sulu "full impulse power", and Sulu says "aye, ETA 12 minutes." Full impulse is 1/4 the speed of light. No way they would use speeds like that to go a few thousand miles.

ckstaats

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Spock: They like you very much, but they are not the hell "your" whales.
Dr. Gillian Taylor: I suppose they told you that.
Spock: The hell they did.

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Trivia: The aircraft carrier that Uhura and Chekov find is actually the USS Ranger, standing in for the USS Enterprise. The Enterprise was at sea during filming.

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Question: Kirk and crew deliberately disclose crucial technological secrets, extend the life of a random stranger, deliver future technology to a primitive military power, abduct a cetacean biologist, and actually contribute to the extinction of a species during their brief stay in 20th Century San Francisco. Specifically: Scotty reveals the secret of Transparent Aluminum 150 years too early; McCoy arbitrarily uses 23rd Century medicine to cure a seriously ill 20th Century woman; and Kirk chooses to remove Gillian from the 20th Century. Perhaps most importantly, Chekov leaves behind a Starfleet Communicator and a Type 2 Phaser in the hands of the U.S. Navy (who would undoubtedly dissect the devices and try to exploit the technology a couple of centuries too soon). Beyond all that, Kirk and crew abduct two breeding humpback whales, one of which is pregnant, and that certainly contributes to humpback extinction in the 21st Century. Given what we think we know about disrupting linear time continuity (many instances are cited in Star Trek canon), how did Kirk and crew return to anything even resembling their own timeline after such blatant and deliberate interference in Earth history?

Charles Austin Miller

Chosen answer: This question has been answered a number of times by various individuals, all saying pretty much the same thing. The answers have been most satisfactory given the question revolves around a fictitious situation and the answer (s) need to be accepted as complete for this purpose. Any dispute or non-acceptance should be addressed in a Star Trek forum. Any ignoring of the Prime Directive was done to save the future of Earth, as the probe would have wiped out all life on Earth. Essentially, nothing that was done in the past resulted in major changes that would make Earth 300 years later appear any different, and no major futuristic technologies were revealed. The major one, Chekov's communicator and phaser being left behind did not result in anybody learning secrets. In the film, the phaser didn't function because of the radiation. It's presumed then the radiation permanently damaged the equipment so it appeared to be nothing but a toy or prop. However, in the novel "The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh", Roberta Lincoln was sent by Gary Seven to recover the items from Area 51 before any secrets were learned (and as stated before, additional corrections to Earth's timeline could have been done that aren't addressed in the film.) The subsequent loss of a suspicious "ruskie" would have hardly affected the era that was already in the midst of the Cold War. McCoy even questions that giving Dr. Nichols the formula for transparent aluminum could alter history to which Scotty replies what if Dr. Nichols is the one who invents it, to which McCoy agrees (in a later novel it is reveled that Scotty already knew Dr. Nichols invented transparent aluminum, so history was not changed.) The miraculous recovery of the old lady (growing a new kidney) was done by a pill so that any examination of her would not reveal the futuristic method involved. She would be a bewilderment to the medical community at best, and most likely misdiagnosis would be to blame. And just because she got a new kidney does not mean her life would have been extended, she could have died some other way in both timelines. And as stated before, Gillian simply wasn't vital to Earth's history. She could have contributed nothing of importance to society and died alone and childless. And a missing pair of breeding Humpbacks would hardly affect the extinction of their species, however in the future, they are already extinct, so little changes would occur. As for any questions about people seeing the Klingon ship in the past, who would believe them? People have long been claiming to see spaceships and aliens to little or no avail, so why would anyone believe a handful of people who said they saw aliens in a spaceship steal 2 whales? However, as with many time travel situations in films and novels, it's possible the events of the 23rd century as they appear in the beginning of the film are a result of Kirk and company's actions in the 20th century since the events already occurred even though Kirk and company had not yet done it themselves (this is where a discussion forum on the film would be advised, or a discussion forum on the theories of time travel).

Possibly the most convoluted and poorly-reasoned series of answers I've seen on this site. So far.

Charles Austin Miller

I think they're pretty logical actually.

I think your opinion would be in the minority. There is nothing exceptionally convoluted, nor poorly reasoned in the response.

Answer: They were extraordinarily lucky. The crew quite often defies all odds and encounters literal miracles. For a period of time this even happened on a roughly weekly basis.

TonyPH

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