Ronin

Corrected entry: De Niro pronounces 'Hereford' incorrectly when interrogating Sean Bean's character. He say 'Here ford', as in two different words. It should be pronounced 'Herryford'. I am surprised Sean Bean didn't correct this.

Correction: De Niro's character is American and he wouldn't know the correct pronunciation. As for Sean Bean's character, he doesn't correct De Niro because he is a fraud, as evidenced by the fact that he doesn't know what color the Hereford boathouse is. His accent and background are faked.

Phil C.

There is zero indication that Sean Bean is not British and why would he fake being British on top of everything else? Every Brit knows how to pronounce Hereford and De Niro uses the mistake that is only made by Americans indicating he messed it up and nobody dared to correct him.

The correction is still valid. It's not a mistake for an American character to pronounce a word in an American way. The mistake seems to indicate Bean in real life didn't correct Pacino (which the comment also indicates), not that the character Spence should have corrected Sam. Pronouncing words in an American or British (or any other country) way is only a mistake if it goes against how the established character would say the word (e.g Dr. House saying a word Laurie's natural British way).

Bishop73

Corrected entry: After the ambush, Reno and De Niro set off in the Mercedes. As they do a reverse hand brake turn, you see a sunroof on the car. In the next overhead shot, there is no sunroof. A couple of shots later De Niro pops up again out of the sunroof with the bazooka.

Correction: This shot is filmed from a significant distance above and forward of the car. As such, the edges of the sunroof's body-color panel are difficult to make out, but they are there faintly. It is the same car. (Using your DVD player's zoom feature helps to make it more obvious if you can't make it out normally).

johnrosa

Corrected entry: During the shooting in the Arles amphitheater, when one of the Russians shots a man, you can see a drop of blood hitting the camera lens.

Correction: See Braveheart, Saving Private Ryan, etc etc. This is a dramatic effect, not a film mistake.

Corrected entry: Sam, Vincent and Dierdre walk toward the arena at Arles looking for Gregor. The camera follows from a low angle and at the end of the shot you can see three people on top of a building watching the scene. (01:03:00)

Pat Patterson

Correction: They're in one of the most popular tourist areas of the country. It would not be unreasonable for sight-seers to be on top of a roof looking down.

Corrected entry: The fourth shot after De Niro and Reno run over the ice at the ice rink, is a shot of the panicking crowd. The camera pans and we see a soundgirl with a shotgun microphone pointing it at the crowd. Than we see a 35mm camera on a steadicam filming the crowd. The operator of the camera that is filming all this notices it and starts to pan faster, but you can hardly miss the white camera body and the green illuminating steadicam monitor. (01:44:40)

Correction: We are watching a TELEVISED skating event. There are several cameras and microphone operators in full view in other scenes.

Corrected entry: When they are going over their plan in the apartment, Gregor is keen to go ahead there and then. But why would he be so keen, if he hasn't spray-painted the case yet?

Nick

Correction: At this point Gregor is trying fit in as one of them. He knows they will not change the plan, and so suggests it as a way of convincing the others he is an eager member of the team.

Corrected entry: During the gun purchase, the seller says that his boss wants to check the money and that the rest of the guns are in the other car. Spence then asks Vincent for some of the money, but the seller never takes it from him, he just starts walking into the tunnel. When Spence and Vincent enter the tunnel, the seller tells them to stop, confers with his boss, and tells them that everything is good. He never had the money to check.

Correction: That's because it was a trap. The seller never wanted to see the money, he wanted to get the men into the tunnel so the sniper could kill them.

Corrected entry: At the end, when Gregor gets shot in the head by Miki, the mark on his forehead is visible, where he is about to get shot. Frame by frame required. (01:43:50)

The-Immortal

Correction: As it says quite clearly in the guidelines, something that requires slow motion to spot is almost invariably not a valid mistake. Read them next time.

Tailkinker

Corrected entry: In the middle of the film when De Niro and the others are in the car going to get Gregor, De Niro says, "He's at the arena," but Gregor hasn't arrived at the arena yet. (00:59:55)

The-Immortal

Correction: Gregor is in a bar which is right beside the arena, to say that's he's "at the arena" would be understood by most people to include the general area. In addition DeNiro would know that Gregor would want to do the exchange in a public place and would assume that if his phone signal is located near the arena then he is headed there.

tw_stuart

Corrected entry: When Gregor escapes from Sam in the coliseum he jumps over a rail just as Sam fires a shot at him. The bullet misses, but there is no impact on the huge wall directly behind Gregor.

Correction: The camera shot/angle is too far away to determine that.

The-Immortal

Corrected entry: When the chase between the 5 Series BMW and the Peugeot 406 starts, they both whip around a roundabout. In the background is a gun metal grey Rover 800 Hatchback. Couple of shots later as the two cars are absolutely speeding along the river, the same Rover 800 is now ahead of them in the traffic.

Correction: There is more than one Rover 800 that was made, your just looking at another Rover 800 not the same one from a previous scene.

The-Immortal

Corrected entry: When Spence checks the armaments they are going to buy, he states "it's not all here". They have a gunfight and return to base. No-one makes any comment that they need to obtain the missing armaments.

Correction: They may consider it so obvious as to not be worth stating. Either way it's not a mistake.

tw_stuart

Corrected entry: In the coliseum Sam is wounded by a Teflon bullet that pierces his armoured vest. A Teflon bullet is pointed to aid penetration and only has a thin coating of Teflon on it. Ricocheting off the wall would disrupt both of these penetration aids and make it most unlikely that the bullet would penetrate the vest.

Correction: The Teflon bullet penetrated the vulnerable side of the vest, not the front.

The-Immortal

Corrected entry: In the coloseum when the Irish guy fires his gun, the bullet ricochets and hits De Niro. After this he sees that the bullet has been upgraded with teflon (for piercing bullet-proof vests). But how can the armour piercing bullet ricochet from a sand/chalk building block? The bullet should have gone into the wall.

Correction: The same way any other bullet would: It hit at an angle, and was deflected. The fact it's an armour-piercing bullet should make little difference. Ricocheting bullets don't bounce off surfaces like rubber balls.

J I Cohen

Corrected entry: After Gregor steals the case, Sam and the others hole up in a flat to treat Larry's wound, during this scene the idea that they can trace Gregor through his cellphone is put forward. Vincent asks Sam if that is possible, but isn't that how they tracked the case in the first place (through the bald guy's cellphone).

Correction: Yes, but when they were tracing the movements of the case during the ambush attempt, it was Gregor that was doing the tracing. Obviously, he isn't there to run a trace, using his equipment, if it's him they are trying to locate.

Phil C.

Corrected entry: In the first scene outside the bar, Robert De Niro hides his gun behind three stacked beer bottle crates. He then slides the top crate sideways to cover the gun, but in the next shot the top two crates have been moved over.

Correction: He slides the top two crates over in the first place.

Nick

Corrected entry: In the beginning of the movie, when the weapon deal is taking place in the centre of Paris, Robert de Niro and company are waiting in an Audi S8. The head lights are not burning, but when a shot is shown from the inside of the car, you can see that the dashboard lights are on. This can only be so if the head lights are also lit.

Correction: In all Audi Ss (S4, S8, and so on) the dashboard lights go on when the ignition is on, or after shutting down the engine but before taking the keys out, regardless of whether the lights are on or not.

Corrected entry: In the scene where Robert De Niro and the girl are having a car chase, after the girl leaves the tunnel and is swerving through all the construction workers. There is a shot from inside the car where you can see her driving through everyone. The speedometer reads zero mph.

Correction: Considering the damage the car has sustained it's likely the speedometer was broken.

Corrected entry: In the Nice chase scene, when the two cars come to construction work on the road, in the far shots the Audi S8 is quite close to the Peugeot, yet when the Peugeot swerves to avoid a crash with the construction lorry, if you slow it down you can see the Audi has completely disappeared. (00:45:20)

The-Immortal

Correction: According to this site's rules, if you have to use slow motion to see something, it's not a valid mistake.

Sacha

Factual error: When Gregor shoots the guy in the car after nearly killing the little girl, blood sprays over the window, but there's no bullet hole. If the bullet exited his head, hence spraying blood, it should have gone through the window too. (00:55:00)

Jon Sandys

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Answer: There's no way of knowing what was in the case. It is a plot device called a "MacGuffin," a term coined by director Alfred Hitchcock. It doesn't actually matter what the object is but is just something that drives the story. It can be any type of object or device such as a "secret formula," "enemy war plans," a "nuclear weapon," a "treasure map," and so on that the characters are either searching for or protecting. There was never any intention to reveal what it was. Its purpose is to motivate the characters' actions and tell the story. Most likely it was intended to be a McGuffin just to keep the audience guessing and thinking about the movie long after it ends.

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