Tailkinker

20th Mar 2013

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: After realizing that the Jellyfish was on a collision course, ordering the Narada to open fire wouldn't have helped at all; destroying the Jellyfish would have led to containment breech of the red matter, which in turn would have swallowed up the Narada as well. A better option would've been to simply warp away. From the previous scene, the Narada was able to jump to warp in a matter of seconds to pursue the Jellyfish, meaning that jumping to warp is a relatively quick and easy task. Even after the missiles were fired, Nero still had plenty of time to order a warp retreat.

Teru_Kage

Correction: Characters are allowed to be fallible, to make wrong choices without it being considered a mistake. Nero's angry, he wants to see Spock dead, and, being a miner by profession rather than a warrior, lacks the training to overcome his anger and consider his options rationally. If this leads him to make a wrong call, that's just him screwing up, not a plot hole.

Tailkinker

18th Feb 2013

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: Spock Prime charges out of the wormhole/timewarp and Nero sets about capturing him, which apparently takes some time to accomplish. Spock Prime knows the destructive power of the Red Matter and he would in no way ever allow this substance to fall into the hands of a madman, even though it would cost his life. This was the only logical conclusion Spock Prime could have made.

alfredodedarc

Correction: Pure assumption. Spock cannot be aware that Nero would intend to wipe out every planet in the Federation; given his experience in diplomacy, he would have every reason to believe that he could reason with Nero. Choosing to attempt that rather than taking the suicide option does not make for a plot hole.

Tailkinker

9th Jan 2010

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: When the cadets are preparing to enter the shuttles to take them to their ship. Uhura confronts Spock. Spock refers to her as Lieutenant despite her only being a cadet (which is confirmed by Captain Pike when he relieves the COMMS officer).

garok89

Correction: Starfleet Academy is a training facility for officers. Upon graduation, cadets will receive their commissions, generally at the rank of ensign, but exceptional individuals may be commissioned as a lieutenant. With the crisis on Vulcan, the Academy's graduating class have been commissioned en masse and assigned to the relief fleet. As such, while still technically a cadet, Uhura legitimately holds the rank of lieutenant.

Tailkinker

3rd Jan 2010

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: Judging by the attitude of the Vulcan children, Sarek's decision to marry Amanda was not popular on Vulcan. One child calls Sarek a traitor. The head of the Vulcan Science Academy panel even tells Spock his human mother is a disadvantage. Clearly humans are looked down upon by Vulcans in this movie. Yet, despite the prejudice against Spock for his association with humans, Sarek's egregious act of marrying the human to begin with is apparently overlooked. Despite being the Ambassador to Earth, he also serves on the VSA selection committee (shouldn't he be on Earth?) and his human wife is allowed to hang out in the sacred cave with the Vulcan leaders. If they hate her so much, why is she allowed to be there?

Vader47000

Correction: While Spock's human heritage is seen as a disadvantage, it doesn't stop him being seen as a worthy candidate for acceptance to the prestigious Vulcan science academy; as you would expect from the logically minded Vulcans, his ability is seen as being of greater importance than his links to humanity. Sarek's ability was already long-proven, as seen by his selection as the Vulcan ambassador to Earth, when he made the decision to marry Amanda, so, while his decision might be considered strange, it would hardly be logical to demote or overlook an individual of proven talent because of it. As for allowing Amanda into the cave, she's the wife of an elder of Vulcan. Even if they hated her (and after at least 25 years on-planet, she's likely to be at least accepted by this point), excluding her purely on racial grounds would be illogical.

Tailkinker

10th Dec 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: When Kirk lands on the Narada's drilling platform over Vulcan, he pulls off his helmet and tosses it aside before charging the Romulan who emerges from the drill. He fights barehanded and has his phaser knocked over the edge. The next shot from Sulu's viewpoint shows Kirk hitting both Romulans with his helmet somehow back in his hands.

Correction: In previous shots from Sulu's vantage point, Kirk's helmet is clearly visible lying on the drill head only a few feet behind where Kirk is standing. Given that Kirk is now unarmed, with his phaser knocked out of his hand, it's hardly unreasonable that he might scoop up his helmet to use as a makeshift weapon, rather than continuing barehanded. The camera is off Kirk for several seconds prior to the first shot of him holding the helmet, so he had plenty of time to do so.

Tailkinker

8th Jul 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: At 13:19 one question to a Vulcan student was about the volume of the sphere. He answers 4/3*pi*r^2 instead of ^3 in the Hungarian version. (00:13:15)

Correction: These children are being tested. It therefore follows that they could quite reasonably get a question wrong. Even Vulcans are not infallible.

Tailkinker

1st Jul 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: Kirk quickly locates Uhura and runs to find her to question her about the Klingon transmission. From there he runs to the bridge. Uhura is already there when he enters the bridge.

Correction: Incorrect. Uhura follows Kirk and McCoy to the bridge, stays out of the way while Kirk is talking to Pike and Spock, then she speaks up when Kirk turns to her for evidence.

Tailkinker

7th Jun 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: Upon hearing that Vulcan is going to be destroyed within minutes Spock goes into the turbo lift to take him to the transporter. Within seconds Nero orders the space drill up to his ship where Sulu falls off the device and Kirk has to sky dive to rescue him. Chekov, who is aware of a way of beaming these two to the Enterprise races out of the bridge, opposite to the turbo lift, down the corridor to the transporter room. Where he then beams both Sulu and Kirk aboard the ship. Spock then enters the room to be beamed down to Vulcan. Why did Spock go in the turbo lift to the transporter, when it was on the same deck as the bridge, since he had only seconds to save his family? (00:57:15 - 00:58:25)

Avensiscomic

Correction: When Spock leaves the bridge, he's empty-handed. When he arrives in the transporter room, he's carrying a full equipment belt with a phaser, communicator and so forth. He took the turbolift to go and get the belt before beaming down.

Tailkinker

9th Jun 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: If Nero changed the future of the original Star Trek universe when he attacked, and the subsequent destruction of the USS Kelvin, how could Spock appear in the same universe 25 years later? Both the Narada and the Jellyfish were sucked back into the past. However, the Narada was taken back in time first. Any changes made would make a new "alternate reality" that would have been separate from Spock's when he appeared, as they both left the same future around the same time. Spock's ship would have appeared without a Narada being in existence. (00:01:00 - 00:25:00)

Avensiscomic

Correction: As time travel doesn't actually exist, there are no definitive rules that state precisely how any film that involves time travel must proceed. Spock's ship and the Narada fell into the same wormhole, therefore it hardly seems unreasonable that they would reappear in the same reality, regardless of opinions that it should be otherwise.

Tailkinker

29th May 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: When Chekov reports to the crew their "mission" to go to Vulcan, he states that they have observed a lightning storm in space which triggers Kirk to recognize the attack on the fleet and Vulcan. Problem: The "lightning storm" in space was caused by a black hole, the black whole was not formed until they dropped the red matter into Vulcan's core, therefore the Vulcans could not have reported on such an event as it had not occurred in their system yet.

tonester2007

Correction: Incorrect. The lightning storm in space was caused by Spock's arrival through the wormhole, just as the original was caused by Nero's ship coming through.

Tailkinker

17th May 2009

Star Trek (2009)

Corrected entry: The singularity that consumed Planet Vulcan simply closed on itself, yet the singularities that consumed the Romulus sun and Nero's Narada ship, each with different amounts of red matter used, either stay open to pull the Narada and Jellyfish in, or tries to pull in the Enterprise.

beyondthetech

Correction: Different cases. The circumstances are different each time, different amounts of red matter, one opens within a planetary core, one within a ship, the third within a supernova shockwave. Given that the whole thing is made-up science anyway, it's impossible to say how the red matter singularities should react in any given situation.

Tailkinker

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