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26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 14: The Tragedy - S2-E6

Plot hole: Mando needs to make it to the top of the hill fast (he lost the ever important high ground, but he does not seem to mind). He would have a jetpack, but he left it behind. Now, everyone can be distracted and forget some piece of equipment and realise only a minute later (although it's a huge walk, and he has to climb, you'd think he'd remember right away). The problem is, even if Mando forgot the pack and realised only a minute later, the throwaway comedy intro of episode 2.2 showed that he can remote control the jetpack and call it back to himself.

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 14: The Tragedy - S2-E6

Continuity mistake: When Fennec gets off the cliff to parlay with Mando and Boba, during the conversation the strap on her shoulder has a red clip on it or doesn't, randomly changing between shots. (00:11:20)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 14: The Tragedy - S2-E6

Continuity mistake: We can see Mando's position when he approaches the Jedi temple the first time, and the position of the shadows of the menhirs that form the stone circle. The camera view changes, and the shadows are in a different direction. (00:05:40)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 14: The Tragedy - S2-E6

Other mistake: Ahsoka tells Mando the name of a planet. Just the name and nothing else, we see him take off. It's a rather big planet as we can see from the atmosphere, and the Jedi temple is secret...yet Mando right away just finds "the big rock" in a planet with a complex sorta Earth-like geography.

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 13: The Jedi - S2-E5

Stupidity: Ahsoka gives the magistrate a day to surrender for no real reason - she has no advantage doing so nor it is any more honorable or humane; she is in fact giving Morgan time to organize herself with hostages as she explicitly threatens to. Had she finished her assault without this senseless ultimatum, barely anyone would have been in any danger or tortured for a full day like it happened.

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Suggested correction: Tano doesn't know the strength of the Magistrate's forces. Djarin tells her that there are ex-military, hired mercenaries inside armed to the teeth and that he doesn't believe that even with the force she would survive. Tano agrees with this assessment and also asks if Djarin saw any hostages inside, so until then she didn't even know for sure whether or not there were. It is implied that had Tano continued her assault she would have been killed. There is indeed no stated reason why Tano gives a single day as an ultimatum, but it seems reasonable to assume that prior to meeting Djarin and The Child she would have used this time to plan her 2nd assault.

I think we disagree on the idea that it is implied that if she continued her assault she would have been killed; she killed 25% of their troops in their first assault, and then in the second one, which was in the open and broad daylight, she killed or disarmed everyone else including the main villain and the henchman, who was then killed by Mando, together with 2 guards. Mando was only instrumental in saving the hostages Morgan took after her threat - which, by the way, was expressed in a way that did not even imply necessarily that she was just taking the people hostages and not kill them right away as punishment. The evil henchman says it correctly "We'll be ready when she returns"; waiting only weakens her position in every way, since the stakes and/or disparity in forces is not shown adequately.

You seem to be ignoring the part where Djarin tells her that even with her skills she would be killed and she agrees. Whether or not that is actually true based on what we see doesn't really matter, it's their opinion based on what they know at the time. It seems fairly clear that she withdraws because she doesn't know what she's up against behind those walls.

She literally laughs behind his back when he says that line, and it is contradicted in every way from what we see, so it seems to be ignored by the writers first and foremost. They say the rule of writing is "Show, don't tell", I'd be fine with "Don't show the opposite of what you are telling." You can argue that it's more alike a plot hole than a simple stupidity, but I think you can agree that for what it is shown, Ahsoka had no other reason to wait for (more than) a day other than give the main character a chance to show up, and an ultimatum considerably worsens her position. It's not even clear why she took so long to make a move on the city, Bo-Katan (who does not have a direct path of communication on her) knew where she was, but the first time we see her it is also the first time she has a contact with the Magistrate.

No, I do not believe the writers included a laugh as an indication that Ahsoka believes the exact opposite of what Djarin states and that she agrees with his assessment that she is outmatched just to keep him happy. Yes, they do portray her as very powerful inside the city, but there are two people in there fighting at the same time which splits the enemies forces. Yes, giving yourself time to prepare also gives your enemy time to prepare. Sometimes there's no way to avoid that. This is neither a Stupidity nor a plot hole.

"Splits" is an overstatement; she takes the whole force down herself. We both agree that "she regroups after a preliminary assault and then prevails through teamwork" is the general idea of what it should happen, but it's not what it is shown. Remove Mando from the episode and you would only have (assuming she adopts the same effortlessy successful strategy to attack head-on a prepared enemy: she gets inside with no problem whatsoever!) a couple prisoners as casualties, which is something that Ahsoka herself brought upon her. There's not even an indication that she was preparing any strategy, since she asks about the presence of any prisoner while she is already going back to face the Magistrate.

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 13: The Jedi - S2-E5

Continuity mistake: During the clash between Ahsoka and the Magistrate, after they parried each other's blows and take a couple circling steps, the latter assumes a stance with the dull edge of the spear towards Ahsoka, but it's the pointed edge in the next shot (when she swirls it and attacks). (00:34:50)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 13: The Jedi - S2-E5

Continuity mistake: Ahsoka tosses to the floor the pauldron with Mando's signet. In close-up, it lands in a grassy spot between stones, but when it is shown again it lies in a different spot with no such big gap. (00:30:05)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 13: The Jedi - S2-E5

Continuity mistake: The Magistrate reacts to the Mandalorian's "My price is high" statement turning towards him. Both hands are on the bowl, while she had her right arm stretched out to feed whatever lives in the pond. (00:12:10)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 13: The Jedi - S2-E5

Other mistake: In the first kill we see Ahsoka perform on-screen, the lightsabers don't cut anything, which is impressive since they leave scorching burn marks into a tree a moment later. (00:02:20)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Other mistake: In the first episode of the first season, the Stormtroopers in Nevarro were wearing poorly maintained and rusty uniforms, implying they were a small detachment stranded away and cut off from any remnants of the Empire, in fact living in a clandestine condition. They also had to set up a small laboratory in the bunker where the doctor worked. Now turns out that a few minutes off the city, there's a full base the locals were aware of, with tons of equipment, that is where the stormtroopers from Season 1 finale came from, and that the research facility is there.

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Continuity mistake: When Captain Carson Teva tells Cara Dune "I am sorry for your loss" he turns towards a table. She is standing by a metal post, but she's leaning against it in the next shot, just as she was in an earlier part of the conversation. (00:32:25)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Continuity mistake: At the arrival of the TIE Fighters, Greef Karga spots them in the electronic sight of his cannon, but seconds later the turret has still to turn around from the time he shot the slow bombing trooper. (00:27:00)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Other mistake: Cara Dune rams with the Marauder a trooper who was shooting at her through the open window. The speederbike explodes in a ball of flame, but despite the big open window that goes through the whole length of it, the flames do not affect the inside in the slightest. (00:25:50)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Other mistake: The imperial base (that has been there for a long time) has troops on speeder bikes ready to launch, but no proper way for them to get out of the base itself, so a couple of them die just because the jump is too steep and they can't avoid the rocks! Imagine building a garage ramp 40 feet in the air and not even clear the ground underneath from huge sharp rocks. How would they even go back up? There's no towing equipment in sight. (00:24:45)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Revealing mistake: After exterminating dozens of stormtroopers, our heroes are inexplicably pinned down by just two taking cover in the elevator. During this phase of the battle Gina Carano drives the big vehicle that was lying around and positions it behind the other two good guys (instead of in between them and the shooters). The two have to get inside the vehicle going through its narrow door; when Carl Weathers does it, it's of course not a surprise that the stormtroopers can't hit him, but it's a bit more surprising that in the view inside the vehicle he is still standing in front of an open door and not taking cover, but the troopers have stopped shooting. Someone forgot to add some blasters behind him, or the camera is really positioned at an unfortunate angle showing how exposed he is. (00:23:35)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Stupidity: In a throwaway comedy line, the Mythrol says that he still does not have vision in his left eye. For unexplained reasons that is the one guy that they take along for the dangerous base assault mission; a wimpy, obese, half-blind accountant. And for the whole mission he is quite a good shot, even (left-handed one at that, even). Cara is the Marshall and Greef the de facto 'ruler' of the town, who appears to be the biggest if not the only one of the planet; are we to believe the whole planet is so small that its whole defence is composed by these two people and there's not a single other able-bodied person on it? (00:11:30)

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Suggested correction: The base was supposed to be practically empty, run by a skeleton crew. It was meant to be a simple, in and out mission and the Mythrol was just supposed to be their driver. He goes with the group inside, against his better judgment, because the lava tide will be coming in soon. It is never stated that the four members of the team are the only able-bodied people, they simply believed that the four they bring would be enough. Which as it turns out was completely accurate, given the fact the team succeeds even with the base being full of stormtroopers. Also, you don't have to be a stereotypical tough guy to be a good shot. There's plenty of people that aren't soldiers and are far from in good shape that are perfectly capable with a gun.

And that are also blind in one eye? I figured that the lava tide was just an excuse to bring him in - no such tide is shown to affect the area, even if the mission takes them longer than they anticipated.

You say in your mistake that the blind in one eye comment was meant to be humorous. No reason to believe he was being completely honest. But yes, it is not unheard of for people with limited or even no vision in one eye to still be a good shot. It only limits your depth perception and peripheral vision. No reason you can't hit a target right in front of you with only one good eye. Regardless of whether or not the lava tide coming in was a true statement or just an excuse to get him to come in, it isn't a stupidity mistake that the group brings him in. These mistakes are not for actions by characters you would not agree with were you in their shoes. This category of mistake is for an action so daft it defies logic, such as running back into the building with the killer you just escaped.

"I'll bring my pudgy accountant to my base infiltration mission, he has a speeder bike" doesn't sound exactly logical, no (other than the fact that he's a funny character and helps making the episode entertaining). If he was supposed to just be their driver and then an extraordinary circumstance such as their speeder bike being destroyed forced him to abandon a "Keep the speeder running" (as Mando says en route - in a typical trope, they are discussing their roles and basic mission objectives only when they are already well on the way and have zero scouting or tools) plan, it would have followed some kind of logic, but that is not what happens, they drag him in. When do you ever see in a robbery/heist movie the characters tell their getaway guy "come on in, we could use one more guy with a gun actually, forget our only escape mean"? By any logic he'd just slow them down, he even just showed them that he's not any good at picking a lock.

It doesn't rise to the level of a Stupidity mistake. Bringing him isn't an action that is so stupid it seems unbelievable. He doesn't even appear to be as much of a hindrance to the mission as you suggest, they seem to operate just fine with him there.

Of course they are the good guys and it all works out in the end and it made for a fine episode, but for all we know and they know, they dragged a non-combat trained and physically unfit accountant to their commando mission, the fighting part. It's already a big stretch that the magistrate and the marshall of a whole planet have to resort on that guy of all people for a getaway driver role (he's not even portrayed as being a great pilot, since Cara drives the vehicle they will escape with: he's literally there because he's got a bike and he's an indentured servant), but it sure seems unbelievable they brought him - inside the base - all of a sudden with no story justification about it (which would have been really simple) and contradicting the original plan.

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Continuity mistake: Cara Dune drives the Marauder off the cliff; the vehicle practically nosedives and yet in the next shot it landed at a much less steep angle so it is driveable with no problems; in fact lands rear-first. (00:24:10)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Continuity mistake: Mando and the others just listened to Pershing's message to Moff Gideon. A band of stormtroopers is there to provide the patented generic shootout; notice Gina Carano shoot fiercely behind Mando right away, but in the next shot being idle with her arm lowered. (00:20:45)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Continuity mistake: When the Mythrol says "Look, it's a mint Trexler Marauder", look at the stormtrooper closest to him. His hand is inches away from the blaster, but it's closer in the previous and following shot. (00:15:25)

26th Jan 2021

The Mandalorian (2019)

Chapter 12: The Siege - S2-E4

Continuity mistake: The scene with the kid that eats the blue cookies plays out like the kid had the cookie package there all along, but when the Child joined the class they were nowhere in sight. (00:09:30)

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