Fracture

Fracture (2007)

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Corrected entry: Midway through the movie, Anthony Hopkins calls Ryan Gosling at Hopkins' office. Hopkins could not possibly know the exact moment Gosling would be at Hopkins' office because Hopkins was in jail at the time.

Correction: This is a case of we don't know what was happening behind the scenes. Hopkins could have been trying a few times his office to check and see if Gosling had stopped by. Hopkins would know that Gosling would visit his office at some point to try and ascertain any possible evidence. Lucky perhaps, but it doesn't contradict anything to confirm it being a mistake.

Lummie

Correction: This is also a case of a movie villain going for a big flex. They keep vague in the movie itself how he would exactly be able to do that, but there are several possible methods (it was his own company with presumably his own handpicked staff, and throughout the movie, he shows to be in constant touch with private detectives also due to his status as being his own defense attorney) where they actually go for the "how did he do that, come on!" feel. It's not a case of fridge logic plot hole where you have NOT to think of how stupid and implausible it is; the fact that it was out of the ordinary is, on the contrary, the actual point of the scene.

Sammo

Corrected entry: Anthony Hopkins' entire scheme is based on the exact LAPD officer who is having an affair with his wife being the single officer who enters his home to arrest him. Per the LAPD website, on 08/29/08, there were 9753 sworn officers in the LAPD. Wrong officer responds and the entire scheme fails.

Correction: Hopkins asked for the detective. If you listen carefully before the detective entered the house, he was told that Hopkins was specifically asking for him before anyone else.

Lummie

But Hopkins' ask wouldn't have been met. The PD would have strict policies that wouldn't allow Hopkins to have conditions set on his arrest. Police department dispatchers assign officers on practicality, not personal request, in order to ensure the response is fast and impartial. Also, Hopkins was banking on the detective that was "____ing the victim" being present, but investigation integrity policies wouldn't let that happen. (This undermines Hopkins' genius, as he would have known that.)

I did "listen carefully," but I haven't picked up on any dialogue saying anything of the sort. And it does not agree with how the plot unfolds at all. Unless I am mistaken after triple-checking, the correction to this damning plot contrivance is plain wrong. Hopkins asked for Nunally through the phone earlier in the movie, being told when he would be on duty, but nobody made the connection between the current situation and the earlier call. The mistake is valid, since it hinges on a statistical implausibility that was completely out of the killer's control.

Sammo

Corrected entry: In real life, Crawford could not have been retried for murder at the end. Double jeopardy means you can't be retried for the same event under a different charge. If you could, then whenever someone is acquitted of first degree murder, prosecutors would just retry them for second degree murder, then third degree murder, then voluntary manslaughter, etc.

MikeH

Correction: Double Jeopardy does not apply because Crawford was tried on two different crimes (not different degrees of the same crime). He was never charged with murder during the first trial because Jennifer, his wife, was still alive (although on life support). He was tried on attempted murder. After the plug was pulled and she died, Crawford was then charged with murder because her death was a direct result of being shot. Someone can be charged with a different crime involving the same event, even after being acquitted of one of them. If Jennifer survived, was put on life support, made a recovery, but then died of an infection later, it's unlikely the D.A.'s office would charge Crawford with murder in that scenario (or if they did it's unlikely he would be convicted).

Bishop73

Corrected entry: Crawford shoots his wife and then fires 4 shots through the glass. But throughout the movie there are only references to 4 shots being fired and 4 shells being found.

Correction: That's right, they found 4 shells, and the gardener heard four shots. The gardener most likely miscounted how many shots he heard, as under stress that is easy to do. There were no eyewitnesses to the shooting to suggest there were more than four shots fired.

That's wrong. The correction, I mean, but also the mistake. The mistake is not there because Crawford shoots only 3 times through the glass, so the bullet count is correct and the OP is wrong. That's it. The mental gymnastics of the correction are unacceptable, though; you can't randomly assume that every witness and investigator in the movie is wrong and the movie itself wouldn't address it at some point just because in the real world mistakes happen.

Sammo

Corrected entry: Flores tells Willy "It's no good as evidence, it's never been fired." He checks the paperwork regarding the gun purchase and tells Willy "it's property of the defendant, bought about one month ago." Since the gun found actually belongs to Lt. Rob Nunally, it should have been previously fired several times. Most law enforcement officers qualify with their sidearms once to six times per year. Even if it's a new firearm, Rob would have practiced using it after its purchase. No one would bet their life on an unfired firearm. It's unlikely that both firearms would be in the same condition even if they were the same model/caliber. An LA police detective would have compared the purchase document (showing the serial number) for Ted Crawford's gun with the actual serial number on the gun found in Crawford's house. In this case, they would not have matched and any detective would look at all guns that were in the house when Crawford was taken into custody. (00:31:00 - 00:31:30)

Dr. Thomas

Correction: Mr. Crawford's gun was never fired. Nunally's gun has been fired. When Mr. Crawford went to the hotel to replace his gun with Rob Nunally's gun (which was probably fired at least once). He then used Nunally's gun to kill his wife. When the police came and he and Nunally put down their guns, Nunally holstered his real gun and the murder weapon and walked it out of the door, while the weapon that the police recovered was Mr. Crawford's real gun, which is not the murder weapon, and has never been fired. So the serial number of the gun matched Mr. Crawford's real gun. Nunally's gun never really went 'missing' and he didn't suspect anything so he didn't have to run its serial number and because Nunally never fired his gun it didn't need to be processed.

Correction: Crawford tells Willie that when Nunally was reeling after realising that the victim was his lover, it was a simple thing to swap the guns. (If you remember, Nunally and Crawford had agreed to both put down their guns to enable Nunally to enter the house). So Nunally left with his police issue firearm, the murder weapon, and Crawford's 'clean' gun remained at the house.

Corrected entry: Just before the final court appearance, detective Nunelly has the bullets in the evidence room swapped to match a planted gun in the shed under the lawn mower at Ted's house. At the end of the movie, Willie says that since Ted has killed his wife by removing life support he can now access the bullet in her brain and it will match the detectives' gun. So now he can prosecute him for murder, but there is a problem. It won't match because the bullets were swapped by the detective's friend who works in the evidence room.

Correction: Nunally's gun is still the same, and the bullet in Jennifer's head does still match with the gun. The shells that was swapped would not match with the gun, but the bullet would. The bullet was in her head and would be much more important evidence than some shells that could have been planted there (by Ted or anyone else) for some reason.

That wouldn't make much sense. If the shell casings wouldn't be that relevant, why would Nunally go the trouble in replacing them to 'match' the planted gun to the shells. So any not totally incompetent lawyer would cast a huge shadow of a doubt on the evidence. Especially if the chain of evidence for the bullet in the victim's head might be cast into doubt.

Watching the final court scene, it was this exact thought regarding the evidence tampering that would have made a better finale. Sir Anthony Hopkins, having found the gun hidden on the mower, raises this point before the titles roll. That said, he deserved a murder charge for the (Scottish?) accent he went with for the film.

Plot hole: *SPOILER* Toward the end of the movie, Ryan Gosling goes to Hopkins' house where Hopkins is tricked into not only confessing again, but giving Gosling the murder weapon, after they are back in court and Gosling is the acting prosecutor. This would be a conflict of interest due to the fact that Gosling is a witness.

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Suggested correction: First, the gun that Beachum took from Crowford's house was not the murder weapon. It was Crowford's unfired gun. He only took it out of the fear of his life. Second, Beachum entered Crowford's house with police supervision. If he plays it by the book, Crowford's confession is valid. In that case, supervising officers will stand witness, along with a recording confirming their testimony. Third, Beachum doesn't need the confession anymore. He was amply clear on that matter.

FleetCommand

You are on point for the corrections, but they involve just mostly context/details, don't they? The text of the entry should be polished a little, but the core issue is valid, I think; Beachum would never be the acting prosecutor in a case when he is the key witness as well. If it's a case for the "murder," he has to be on the stand for practically everything; even if we exclude him from the confession to the shooting, as you suggest (and even if it should never be litigated to begin with), he still is integral to the pulling the plug phase (he was literally there as it happened and did everything to prevent it). We can just assume that he will be forced to hand the prosecuting role over to someone else later, and he was just there for 5 minutes to gloat before the movie credits run, but it's kind of funny.

Sammo

Beachum doesn't have to testify, neither for the confession part nor for the "pulling of the plug." I've already covered the former. For the latter, the fact that the woman is now dead is enough. If necessary, the attending doctors could testify that the woman "would have outlived all of them."

FleetCommand

Beachum received the confession under "police supervision," as you called it, which still involved him being the only person in the house with the defendant. You mentioned a recording in the earlier comment; are we just to assume he took one, or is there a visual hint I missed? He was also the person who fought for the court order to the point of being physically tackled in front of the victim's deathbed—so doctors and security staff defiant of such an order would be on trial too, I suppose? Since, again, this 'murder' was not even committed by Crawford. So how would Beachum not be a crucial witness, often the only witness to cover that part of the story?

Sammo

OK. You want to assume Crawford's confession was for the viewer's benefit entirely, and there was no wiretapping? Fine. The police have the gun now, hence proof of the first actus reus. Hospital staff tackled Beachum, but Crawford can't pin the murder on them when he has two counts of actus reus and twice demonstrated mens rea. Courts always hear such nonsense as "I didn't kill him; I shot him. The bullet and the fall killed him" (Collateral, 2006). Shooting someone is actus reus.

FleetCommand

I am sure you are right on the Latin, especially since it's hard to imagine the trial going the way it went the first time around to begin with, and I am not getting into the rabbit hole of what exactly could legally be relitigated. But still and again, what does this have to do with the original point being made, that some other guy would be the one leading the trial, since Beachum would be realistically called in as a witness, even a hostile one? I mean, I honestly didn't think it would be much of a point of contention; it's just something there for the audience. I followed the lead about the 'witness' part the OP ended on, but seriously, a conflict of interest would be invoked just because of all the personal first-hand, hands-on involvement in the facts.

Sammo

I explicitly told you what happens if the court struck the confession from the record. (The gun happens.) And yet, here you are, saying "Beachum would be realistically called in as a witness"! This correction is turning into a confrontation. Also, don't conflate "involvement" with "conflict of interest." The latter means someone has different de facto and de jure motives. Beachum always had one motive: to convict Crawford.

FleetCommand

Far from me to be confrontational, and sorry if I came across that way. I guess I simply don't get it; it happens. Specifically, if I stated again the point about the witness, it wasn't because I was blindly disregarding what you said (check the words immediately after the ones you quoted), but it's pointless to delve further into something that goes beyond the original mistake. You just directly addressed the meaning of conflict of interest, which was what the OP talked about. I simply felt the initial correction posted was not doing that; now it does, and I am not disputing your knowledge on the topic, especially not having any of my own. Cheers.

Sammo

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Lt. Robert Nunally: Your wife? Is she OK?
Ted Crawford: I don't think she is. I shot her.

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Trivia: The prop department had some fun during the making of the movie; you can see a lot of names of miscellaneous crew slipped in a few spots. There are boxes with case files scattered around the district attorney's offices; the ones behind Willy in his own office (People vs. Bonaventura - Tony Bonaventura being the property master, People vs. Morgenthau - Kramer Morgenthau being the director of photography) get quite a bit of screen time, but there are several others all over the office space, all carrying the name of a crew member. For instance, in a brief sequence when a dejected Willy walks up to Mona's desk to ask for her help before the third act, you can see unique ones. There's also a listing board with judges during the arraignment, and one with doctors when Willy is stopped by the hospital security; both of them are filled with names of production crew members. (01:16:50 - 01:33:20)

Sammo

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Question: I don't understand why the police haven't checked out Hopkins' gun when he was removed from the crime scene. Wouldn't they check the serial number to see where and when he purchased the gun? The movie mentions that the gun was bought a month prior. Since the gun is actually the officer's gun, wouldn't that registration information come up? Then they would know it was not the murder weapon.

Answer: Crowford (Hopkins) shot his wife with the gun that belonged to Nunally (Burke), but switched it with his at a moment of Nunally's distraction. The gun that the police mistakenly collected was not the murder weapon. This was a key plot point. Crowford goes on to gloat about it near the end of the film, saying the one piece of evidence Nunally needed was on his hip the whole time.

FleetCommand

Answer: Since he had meticulously planned every detail, Hopkins would have provided all the necessary information (serial number, date/place of purchase, receipt, insurance, etc.) during discovery. The gun was recovered from the scene, so the police and the prosecution, who believed the case to be open-and-shut, simply didn't check this information against the gun itself and just assumed it was Hopkins'. This is exactly what Hopkins was banking on happening, so the revelation that it the gun was not, in fact, the murder weapon would be a surprise during the trial.

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