Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back

Continuity mistake: At the fight between Luke and Darth Vader, after Luke pushes Vader to fall down from the top of the hibernating cabin, he looks down with the lighting light sabre in the hand. He goes back and we hear the switch-off sound of the light sabre, he comes back three meters left of the point he looked down and in his hand is the switched-off sabre. But as he goes back before this, we can see the end of the prop-light sabre taken out of Luke's hand and obviously the off-prop sabre is given in his hand.

Continuity mistake: When Yoda is teaching Luke, he is strapped to Luke's back in a rucksack. When Luke puts Yoda down, the little Jedi master is still inside the bag. Luke then reaches for his jacket, and in the next shot of Yoda, he has in a few seconds managed to get out the bag and is now sitting next to it. He is not even sitting in the same place as in the previous shot, and is also holding a walking stick he didn't have when Luke put him down.

Continuity mistake: After Luke places the thermal detonator inside an AT-AT, he falls to the ground. The AT-AT takes only one step before the charge goes off, but when the AT-AT explodes, it is much further away from Luke than one step.

Continuity mistake: In an exterior shot in Cloud City, Leia can be seen through the window of a building, with one hand on her hip and the other arm at her side. In the following interior shot, her hands are clasped together.

Continuity mistake: As noted in another mistake, when Han, Leia and Chewbacca are taken captive in Cloud City, two of the stormtroopers change position between shots. This also happens to some of the other troopers, as well as to Lobot, Lando's aide. This is best seen in the widescreen version.

Continuity mistake: When Han gets off the taun-taun when he is searching for Luke, the upper part of his jacket and the garment over his chin is covered in snow. In the next shot facing Han, the snow is gone.

Continuity mistake: When Vader attempts to turn Luke to the dark side, the wires hanging from the structure that Luke is holding onto change in number and position between several shots.

Continuity mistake: At the rebel base on Hoth, the Falcon is being repaired in a hollowed-out snow cave. When Han blasts off out of the cave, none of the debris on the floor or in the cave moves at all, nor is there any effect from the Falcon's exhaust.

Nicki

Continuity mistake: In the beginning of the scene where Luke meets Yoda, in the shots facing Yoda, his hands and walking stick are positioned in front of his face or shoulder. In the shots from behind him, they are positioned in front of his chest.

Continuity mistake: When the Millennium Falcon is pursued by the Star Destroyers after escaping the space slug and, Han pulls the lever for the hyperdrive. In the next shot from behind, the lever has not been pulled.

Continuity mistake: After the Millennium Falcon has left Hoth and Han is trying to repair the hyperdrive, in the shot after he asks for alluvial dampers, the tool box Chewbacca gives him can be seen in the lower left hand corner. When Chewie takes the box, it is lying in a different position than in the previous shot. As Chewie walks over to Han, he is holding the right side of the box with his right hand, but as he puts it down, he is holding the left side of the box with his left hand. There are also more tools in the box than in the previous shot.

Continuity mistake: When Luke has the vision of Obi-Wan, the amount of snow lying on his back and arm changes significantly between shots. In some shots, he is covered in snow, in others, most of it is gone.

Continuity mistake: On Hoth, when the rebel troops starts to see the At-ST, there is a shot where rebels take place for the battle and there is destroyed equipment and black smoke in the air, even though the battle has not started.

Dr Wilson

Continuity mistake: When the Empire ship shoots asteroids in the asteroid field, the first one explodes before the laser even hits it.

Continuity mistake: Just before Leia gives the order to evacuate and leaves the control room on Hoth, C3PO can be seen in the background with his hands over his head. The shot changes to a closeup of him, and his hands are now down at his waist.

Continuity mistake: When Yoda and R2-D2 are engaged in a tug-of-war over the little flashlight, Yoda hits him several times with his walking stick. When Artoo lets go, the stick is pointing upwards as Yoda hits him one last time, but in the next shot, Yoda is using it as a walking stick again and it is pointing downwards.

Continuity mistake: When Leia, Han and Chewbacca follow Lando for refreshments, there is a window beside them. When he opens the door and they see that Darth Vader is there, there is no window but a painted panel with glass bricks.

Dr Wilson

Continuity mistake: When the Millenium Falcon escapes from the giant space worm, it comes from the center of the mouth, but viewed from outside, it comes from the side.

Dr Wilson

Continuity mistake: After Luke is sucked out the window, he grabs hold of two bars in a railing, and his right hand is above the left one. As he hoists himself up in the next shot, it is the other way round: his left hand is above the right hand.

Continuity mistake: There is a shot from inside the cockpit, just before Luke's snow speeder crashes. Look at the speeder's legs, the proportions are wrong. According to this shot the snow speeder must be tiny.

Audio problem: When Luke says, "Now all we gotta do is find this Yoda, if he even exists," if you look closely, his mouth never moves.

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Trivia: The Special Edition covers of Return of the Jedi and Empire Strikes Back are wrong. The picture of the Emperor on ESB cover is from 'ROTJ', and the lightsaber duel between Luke and Vader on the cover of ROTJ is taken from 'ESB' (notice Luke is in his fighter pilot suit, and Vader is fighting him one-handed)

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Answer: The short, short answer to this is "Yes... from a certain point of view." The long answer is complicated and depends completely on what timeframe you mean by "always." If you're going back all the way to the early rough drafts of the early-mid 70s (which actually resemble Episode I more than they do the Star Wars of 1977), you'll find there's a cyborg father figure protagonist that makes a heroic sacrifice, and then another character that is a "black knight" villain that eventually turns to the side of good near the end. Just to make things more complicated, there is yet another character, a villain by the name of "Darth Vader" that is a human Imperial officer like Grand Moff Tarkin. It may be a stretch to count all that as "Darth Vader was always the father" but the pieces were all there, at least.

TonyPH

(1) Now the earliest explicit mention on any documented material that Darth Vader is Luke's father comes from notes Lucas made outlining the general story of the trilogy and its place in the larger Star Wars saga. These were found in the archives for The Empire Strikes Back, but they are undated and we don't know if they were written before Star Wars (1977) and carried forward, or if they were written afterward. These were found fairly recently (made public in 2010) and as far as I know Lucas has never commented publicly about them.

TonyPH

(3) One thing we know, at least, is that Lucas had come up with the idea of Darth Vader the father before starting work on The Empire Strikes Back. Something incredibly odd, though, is that the first draft written by Leigh Brackett does not feature the twist (and in fact introduces Anakin himself as a ghost); for a long time many fans took this as proof that Lucas hadn't thought of the idea at all by then, but after the series outline was discovered it was made apparent that Lucas simply hadn't told Brackett for some reason. Perhaps he wasn't sure yet that he wanted to go through with it, or maybe at that point he was thinking of revealing it in the third film. Either way, Lucas would write the second draft himself, and that's where the twist first appears in script form.

TonyPH

(2) Something that must be understood about Star Wars (1977) is that it was an ALTERNATIVE to his original plans of a saga. By then he didn't think it was realistic that he would be able to make a long series of many movies, so he came up with a "Plan B": he crammed the general story of the trilogy into one movie. So we know that when Star Wars (1977) was filming, Darth Vader was NOT Luke's father, because this one movie was IT, that was the whole story. But what we DON'T know, is whether that means Lucas had abandoned the idea of Vader being the father in order to simplify the story, or if Lucas simply hadn't thought of that at all just yet.

TonyPH

(2, cont.) On a side note, you can tell by watching Star Wars (1977) how it has condensed the story of the trilogy. The middle portion has the characters trying to escape capture from the Empire while one of them loses a duel with Darth Vader (like The Empire Strikes Back) and the third act is a final battle against the Death Star above a forest moon (like Return of the Jedi). The first act features a member of royalty on the run while a couple of protagonists find the main hero on a desert planet, resembling the original drafts and by extension Star Wars: Episode I. Because of this we've arguably never actually had a "pure" first chapter to the original trilogy, even though Lucas eventually had the film serve this purpose anyway.

TonyPH

Answer: Yes, however, he didn't want anyone to KNOW about it. In fact, the original script said "'Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.' 'He told me enough... he told me YOU killed him!' 'No, Obi-Wan killed your father'" Even Hamill was only told the real line just before shooting, so his reaction is somewhat natural.

SexyIrishLeprechaun

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