FleetCommand

20th Sep 2019

Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

Continuity mistake: According to the previous film, Thor: The Dark World, Asgardian kings live approximately 5,000 years. (If I want to be cautious here, this statement is only valid about Odin and of unknown validity about other Asgardians.) But in this film, Thor says Odin fought Surtur 500,000 years before.

FleetCommand

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Suggested correction: In Norse mythology, Asgardians have access to the magic apples of the goddess Idunn, which make them immortal. Without the apples, they wither and die. This process takes about 5,000 years. With the apples, they can live forever.

Thanks for writing that. It was fun to read. But according to Thor: The Dark World, Odin is younger than 5,000 years. This film states that Odin has not seen the previous Convergence (the celestial alignment that also takes place every 5,000 years) and the war that was fought by his father, King Bor. He has heard stories of it but he cannot be certain. (See 0:32:00) And Bor is dead. All of these are inconsistent with this film that claims he had lived 500,000 years (100 Convergences.) Also, the franchise seems to have not adopted the Idunn's apple mythology.

FleetCommand

The magic apples of the goddess Idunn have to be established in the MCU for this fact to be relevant.

gobylo

9th May 2018

Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

Correction: No, she does not. The first shot after she breaks the hammer, her hands are free. She then caresses her own hair and turns them into her trademark thorny helmet. She does conjure up a sword 27 seconds *before* the hammer but either the resulting shockwave blew it away, or she dismissed it for the theatricality of it. She loves theatricality.

FleetCommand

1st Feb 2018

Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

Corrected entry: During a mid-credit scene, while traveling in space en route to Earth, the Asgard refugees ship is ambushed by another colossal ship. This, however, should have not happened. Science fiction fans know that ships don't go gallivanting in empty space on conventional drives. Instead, they use a faster-than-light mode of travel method as "performing hyperspace jumps." Moreover, Asgard and Midgard (Earth) are two of the nine realms. There is one hyperspace jump between them. (02:04:00)

FleetCommand

Correction: Stumbling upon something is not a mistake, whether in real life or in the movies.

Correction: Asgard and Earth are not one hyperspace jump away, just because you can get to earth in one step from Asgard using the bifrost. Secondly as seen in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 a ship has to go through a jump point in order to go into hyperspace which this ship is apparently not near one yet. We have also seen that ships require fuel and we can assume that when not in a hurry they will only drift until needed. We are also not aware of what this or Thanos' ship is capable of.

I didn't say anything about Bifrost and hyperspace being that same; and the fact that there is one jump point between the Midgard and Asgard is not my inference from this film. But all of these aside, ships still don't go gallivanting in empty space on conventional drives. Sanctuary II didn't pull them out of the hyperspace either. They were in empty space, doing pretty much nothing. Sanctuary II stumbled upon them. That's a mistake.

FleetCommand

Stumbling upon something is not a mistake, whether in real life or the movies.

But gallivanting in empty space on conventional drives is a mistake, both in real life and movies.

FleetCommand

They're not "gallivanting" - as the original correction stated, GotG2 showed you need jump points to travel significant distances, and the Asgardian ship is presumably en route to one when it's intercepted by Thanos.

They don't seem to be heading for a jump point. They seem to be totally aimless. "Presumably" is a word that renders this whole site purposeless; if it looks like a mistake, it is a mistake. Plus the first Captain America film and the first Thor film state that Midgard and Asgard are part of the nine realms connected by Yggdrasil (or, as Jane Foster puts it, an Einstein-Rosen wormhole).

FleetCommand

"Presumably" is just as valid as "seems to be." :-) We have no clue as to their fuel status or intentions, beyond going to Earth...somehow. And as you repeatedly keep ignoring, GotG and indeed Thor 3 itself have demonstrated that interplanetary travel needs a jump point or a wormhole. As such at the very least they're making their way to one of those under conventional power, because what other option do they have? This isn't a mistake, it's pure conjecture. Just because space travel doesn't work in the MCU the same way it does in other sci-fi movies, that doesn't make it a mistake.

Jon Sandys

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