Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Plot hole: The plot specifies that the only way to defeat the evil god is destroying the stone or for everyone to renounce to their gifts. That second option is an impossibility, if you consider that people wished things like "a cup of coffee" that they can't take back in any fathomable way or didn't even realise it was a wish, and it's of course statistically impossible that everyone on the face of Earth was convinced by Wonder Woman's pep talk, or was reached by her message, that spreads through the TV.

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Suggested correction: Not everyone had to renounce their wish. The point was that as Wonder Woman was convincing people to be better and rescind their selfish wishes, Max Lord began to lose power and regain his humanity enough to be convinced to rescind his wish. Once he did so, all wishes he granted were not only rescinded, but what he took from everyone was given back. And in a fantasy film, you can certainly "give back" the coffee you wished for. It simply becomes as if you never drank it and the coffee goes back into the pot it came from.

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Max ultimately does rescind his wish, but the idea as Steve said was for "everyone to renounce their wish", which would have been impossible to begin with, and the movie shows only, constantly, people wishing for bad things, some of which were inherently transient and can't be reversed (such as the person who wished Max to have an audience with the President.: that can't be taken back). The supposed alternative method was impossible to fulfill. However I agree that that the impossible idea suggested was not what ultimately happened, which matters more.;-).

Sammo

11th Jan 2021

Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)

Plot hole: Diana never formally expresses her wish to the stone (as opposed to the coffee guy), but for the rest of the movie it is stated that wishes have to be spelled out explicitly, even if just in agreement with a very leading question. (00:24:00)

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Plot hole: The backstory of Wonder Woman in Batman v Superman and Justice League states that after the event of the first Wonder Woman she did not interfere with humans; she explicitly states that she walked away and it's a plot point that Batman had to really dig up for info. This movie merrily contradicts all that, since she is saving people left and right from rather trivial problems, and towards the end she manifests herself literally to the whole world (and at no point it is stated or implied that the apocalyptic events are erased from memory).

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Plot hole: Kelly is a friend of Jason's from LA and they have been seeing each other since he transferred to Seattle (he mentions 'the other day' she saw something at the pet store). Basically the one passion in life Jason has, is karate. Her brother is the US karate champion, and yet Jason didn't know that or even that he was from Seattle. That's absurd on several levels, since it implies that he wouldn't know her last name (then how did they stay in touch?) and they never ever talked about anything personal, because it's fairly obvious it would come up really easily.

Sammo

16th Sep 2020

Sleuth (2007)

Plot hole: No matter how impressionable Milo can be, if Andrew shot him with a blank, the way he flies off his feet and onto the wall is unexplainable; he does not just faint, he catapults himself back, at distance, not even in a muscle spasm. (00:35:00)

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Plot hole: The plot takes a turn for the nonsensical when the Turtles find the Scepter and Mitzu walks off. With no explanation (she is the best fighter of the resistance) Whit captures her. There's no explanation on how he did it with such ease, how did he happen to be at the right place at the right time since nothing of what happened was under his control, and even where this 'right place' was, because he is riding towards the village (and the Turtles themselves) with her - just how far did Mitsu wander during Grandpa's very short apology to be captured by someone who gallops to the village to show her off as bargain chip? (01:05:45)

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Plot hole: It is explicitly said, with a mathematical equation, that time travel requires subjects of equal mass to swap places. Eidan Hanzei has a good 4 inches over Paige Turco, and the 4 honor guards don't have the same build between themselves, and surely not weight the same as the big and muscular turtles, who also have their shell adding further to the mix.

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Plot hole: Michelangelo ends up in the forest completely by chance because he can't ride and his steed dragged him away from battle. Not only Mitsu is there in wait exactly on the tree branch he'll pass by, but also a bunch of villagers are standing by with a cart to fetch him. There's no possible reason why the leader of the rebellion would be lurking in wait setting up a trap in that random spot in the woods, away from battle, where no Norinaga soldier would be. (00:25:30)

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Plot hole: April and Kenshin switch place in time as they were - by some extraordinary coincidence - holding the scepter "at the same time" (if the concept makes any sense) in the exact same pose, with a switch that takes several second of intense lightning storms and 'tornado weather' as one of the Turtles put it. Here there is the assumption that 4 priests would be around the scepter exactly at the same time, and when the Turtles do switch with Norinaga's elite soldiers instead they certainly were in completely different poses, far away enough to ride horses, who did not get spooked one bit by the lightnings and sudden winds but rode as if nothing happened.

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Plot hole: Shredder unleashes Tokka and Rahzar in a residential part of New York. The time is not stated but two senior citizens are taking a cab and there are a cafe and other stores open, it's not quite the middle of the night. Yet the police and the journalists are on the case only the morning after in full daylight. (00:59:45)

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Plot hole: Throughout the movie, the strength of the two beasts fluctuates heavily; they can chew and break telephone posts with ease, they can toss a Turtle many meters in the air through a roof, but they are caged by makeshift cells of junk poorly pieced together or a little horse trailer. (00:39:30)

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Plot hole: Splinter knew all along the name of the company who made the Ooze, and literally sat on this vital piece of information for over a decade just because he was too stupid to simply look the name of the company up, written on giant letters and far from being hidden - he merely had to open the yellow pages, no doubt. Nobody with such a telling piece of evidence about their own origins (the canister that mutated them is in his hands and has the logo of the company with the name spelled out) would be unable to find out something this obvious. (00:22:00)

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Plot hole: The timeline of the movie is quite strange; April obviously got her job back and made advancements in career, living in a sweet two-floor loft. At least -some - time must have passed, many pizza deliveries and all that, but Shredder just woke up from the pile of garbage he ended in at the end of the last movie and the Foot hasn't attempted any reaction or organization yet, implying it is set mere hours after the first movie.

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Plot hole: Ice Cube's cameo is really neat for the fans of the series, but does not make a lick of sense. Brushing aside the fact that the fangirl knows who he is when in theory his involvement in XXX 2 was never officially sanctioned and he gets no mention, presidential pardon or anything in his own movie, the fact that dialing 9 he just shows up in the space of minutes in Detroit with no reason for him to be there is nothing short of supernatural.

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Plot hole: Gibbons is presumed dead and is an NSA officer with no documents or anything, but in the space of a couple minutes from furious shootouts he's the man who orders everyone around, summoning Black Hawks and all sorts of military forces just like that - and supposedly the whole army in the vicinity is hostile and loyal to the bad guys, even. (01:21:40)

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Plot hole: The last part of the movie focuses entirely on what will happen to the President, but as per the villain's plan (wrong and incomplete, but it's another issue) he needed to kill also the VP and the others before him in the succession. The bad guy already lost 20 minutes before the end of the movie but the movie refuses to tell us the obvious and it's simply swept under the rug or forgotten. (01:16:20)

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Plot hole: General George Deckert orders his men to kill the President "Get rid of him", but once this execution, that would make perfect sense in the context of his plan, is interrupted by the cannon shot he spends all the rest of the movie until the very end to drag the President with him for no reason. The longer he keeps him hostage, the more difficult for him it is to cover the story up in any way. (01:18:00)

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Plot hole: The whole premise of the movie and Deckert's plot is moot; as Steele exposits, Deckert, who is the Secretary of Defense, wants to put in the same spot "President, VP, Speaker of the House, Secretary of State." Because, it's "The chain of command. He takes them out, he's what?" Simply, he's NOTHING, because the Presidential Succession includes before the Secretary of Defense the President of the Senate (higher than the Secretary of State) and the Secretary of the Treasury. Deckert's plan was useless. (01:03:55)

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Plot hole: The gimmick Stone uses to escape is cartoonish in its silliness; he just puts in the bathtub a bunch of stuff he heated in the microwave in a vaguely human silhouette, and the police is fooled into thinking that that mass of heat their thermal scanners pick up is him. That's of course idiotic on many levels; a bunch of slabs of meat and hot pocket boxes, all heated at different times, is not gonna look at all like human temperature, and we also have to assume the extraordinary circumstance that the police switched on the scanner only whenever XXX was ready for this trick and not much earlier when he was talking with the agent or preparing the bathtub enchillada. They even show the scanner already on when Agent Kyle Christopher Steele is walking out. (00:46:20)

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Plot hole: Forgetting the fact that Charlie Mayweather knows everything about General Jack Pettibone's home including where he keeps his shirts (somehow the same size as Ice Cube...), and that there's nothing in his home that tips anyone about its owner (both can be explained), what is pretty hard to explain is how did this Machiavellian plan work when Darius made a hasty very early exit from the party the General was at, they drive to his house in that fast sports car, and...his corpse is already there, or at least is by the time Darius gets out of the shower. If this was the plan all along, it hinged also on the fact that Darius would have been at the party (he arrived on his own, not with Charlie) and chose of all the possible moments and actions to get close to the General and eavesdrop on the exact moment when the bad guy talked to him; they needed also picture proof. That's all levels of arbitrary and impossible.

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